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It's good to hear you got your 4Gs completed, no_eye_dear. Which type of 4Gs were they? And what kind of dock did you convert? I need a docking station at home for my diyMods too, and I was thinking that'd be an easy way to swap caps in and out of it. Must go shopping today...
Hi Joneeboi, a grey and a photo 40GB, I opted for the direct route to (1) keep thing simple inside the pod and (2) be able to interchange caps on the outside..... or even no caps.... been doing some experimenting.
Transformers are another good option.....
I just got one of those Sync Chargers and put some small film caps in there for now but I have a collection of caps that I can change out in my amp (lots of room) so I may just leave it straight through.
I did attach a small steel plate the base of the sync charger though...... the interconnects kept pulling it over
Ultimately the dock will be in the top of the amp anyway.....
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I just have to tinker........
about as thick as a single strand in that wire I used! what REALLY helped me finally was to thread the wire through a little tube that held it in the right angle, like I mentioned above, but the single strand whose base was soldered to the other strands was slightly bent so as when the wire is pushed through the tube it would be perfectly aligned on top of the dock pin. Access is also a big problem, since my solder irons head was about as wide as the gap, so I had to come from above with the tip. in retrospect, it would have been heaps easier to do the normal mod. That being said, now that I've done it, it would be easier to do again, so I guess with some familiarity of the space you have to work with, its easier and do-able. Take a look at those pins before you decide to do it though, cause it's not the easiest thing I've done... but it works! and it worked well for a while, till I opened my ipod once too many times and somewhere along the line messed the clickwheel ribbon up. I've got a new one waiting for me at a friends house that I need to go pick it up. I'll be able to post impressions once I get more of a solid one, and burn the BGs in. I wont be able to comment on the differences between the 2 different mods till I hear the reg. one, but I doubt the difference is audible. Theoretically, the rest of the bypasses audio circuit is open and shouldt have any effect, but with a cap there I'm not sure if theres NO effect since there's still some charge swing on the other plate due to the voltage swing on the first, which may have some effect.. I dunno.. I do it for the mod, not so much the sound my ears aren't golden, so, ja know.. let us know how it goes!
Took 5 hrs to do the mod and make the LOD this evening .
I basically did the same thing that you did except I used pin 17 and 24 since they were a little more accessible than pin 14. Used 26 awg Jupiter cryo wires internally and for the LOD. I also added a USB port on the LOD.
Initial impression... sounds a little boring (not sure how else to describe it) compared to the HP out?
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I got my clickwheel in. BUUUT. after closer inspection, I realized that I'd evidently heated up the tiny plug that the clickwheel ribbon slid into. This was a result of a tiny splatter of solder that got onto the pins, and I had to absorb it into some braiding to get it off. ugh. the plastic that holds the pins in place kind of melted down, which is what was preventing proper pin contact. I tried to peel it off a bit, or lift it, but it had stuck to the pins.. so, thats screwed. On the brighter side, it gives me incentive to try bypass the plug, new proj. . I'll have some 36awg wire in teflon here soon that I'll solder to the plugs pins and 7 out of 8 wires go to the chip on the clickwheel, one goes to a little resistor. Should be a challenge, and satisfying if I pull it off. Alternatively, I'll be reviving an old mini with a flash card and a new battery soon
congrats on the mod! update us with burn-in impressions. BGs are a b*tch and a half to come around.
Seems my package hasn't reached you yet, eh, Russ? Give us an in-depth analysis of the airwiring of your click wheel. You always seem to choose the insane way of doing things, don't you? :P I'll add the warning.
And congratulations, darkfury18! Kudos on picking up on the pin 24 bit. I forgot that FireWire support was dropped in the nano. In that case, there are quite a few more unused pins that I hadn't considered, perfect for my iPod digital out DAC/amp.
And thanks for the extra info, no_eye_dear. Maybe I'll pick up one of those docks for my 3G which doesn't have USB charging. =T
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Seems my package hasn't reached you yet, eh, Russ? Give us an in-depth analysis of the airwiring of your click wheel. You always seem to choose the insane way of doing things, don't you? :P I'll add the warning.
And congratulations, darkfury18! Kudos on picking up on the pin 24 bit. I forgot that FireWire support was dropped in the nano. In that case, there are quite a few more unused pins that I hadn't considered, perfect for my iPod digital out DAC/amp.
And thanks for the extra info, no_eye_dear. Maybe I'll pick up one of those docks for my 3G which doesn't have USB charging. =T
Yup, 47uf Black Gates. I guess I just need to let everything burn in. The BGs, my mini3, and my headphones also .
It's pin 7 or 24, depending on which pinout diagram you're looking at; it's one that's unused in all ipods. You gave me too much credit but now i know there are more pins that I can use.
EDIT: I've been reading about the 1G nano and it seems that it sounds very very neutral from the line out, I guess that's what I'm hearing....
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Don't worry so much about what everyone else is hearing. If it's neutral to you, then it's neutral. We've already had a few members who were not impressed by the diyMod's sound and whose impressions didn't match those of the iMod listeners. When you're listening to it, don't worry so much about trying to pick up on the nuances. If they're there, they'll present themselves. Don't think about it too much, just listen.
Maybe I did give you too much credit on the unused pin part (don't worry, you can keep it ). Nevertheless, we've stumbled upon a serendipitous observation: there are now tons more unused pins in the nano of which we had no idea. That allows direct-to-dock solderers more space with which to work, so mishaps like ruZZ.il's click wheel ribbon cable slot melting accident can hypothetically be reduced in occurrence and likelihood. To push the matter even further, I'm requesting that diyModders and/or the average iPod-owning DIYer can confirm the usability of pins 8, 9 and 10 on their respective iPod models. I know what the pinouts.ru site says, that 9 and 10 are only used on the 4G photo and that 8 is the video pin for video-capable and photo iPods, but I just wanted to double check. They really ought to make a list for each iPod line up to notify users of such tidbits as the FireWirelessness of the nanoes. Perhaps we can even whip up our own list. Thanks, everyone.
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.... been doing some experimenting.
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