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Old 12-22-2007, 05:07 PM   #371 (permalink)
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vvs_75:

Sounds good, dude. What configuration did you go with? What's your take on CAvanessia's dock situation?

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Jonee, do you see anything wrong with my bridges??? My DIY iPod mod endeavour - 10+ huge images - BAMod!
There are more detailed pictures there. I'm feeling confused and a lil disappointed now, doubt there's anything wrong though...
Your (dad's?) work looks as fine as ever. If you feel disappointed with the mod, maybe you could just trade me iPods Seriously though, I think you just have to wait it out. The BGs haven't burned in yet, and you haven't gotten used to the sound signature yet. Give it time, and it'll come. If you still feel that way, I direct you to the numerous iMod impressions threads where people rave about this precise thing. Perhaps you can give us some insight as to why they love it so much and why you feel underwhelmed. Could it be the Bose effect? We'll see. Nevertheless, have faith in the Black Gates! Maybe you should start a thread in the Portable Audio section and ask why you don't feel as amorous with your diyMod as some are with their iMods.
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:13 PM   #372 (permalink)
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Success This is an iMod of a nano first gen. I bypassed the whole internal wiring and maintained all original functionality. I cleaned it up a lot since the pic of the inside (forgot to take another one..). Soldering the wires internally to the dock pins was really difficult, so I don't recommend anyone do this (naturally, some will anyway). as I mentioned before, I used a little bit of teflon tubing to duct the wire through and hold it in place. I used hot glue to keep them in place. I used some multistrand wire I had lying around. I cut most of the strand at the end, leaving just one. I put a little solder blob where I cut just to keep it all together. The single strand is about the width of the pins, and it took me many attempts to get this right (admittedly, I believe it would have been easier with a good iron). I had some issues with the wire sticking out at first, that effected the screen. I router the wires a little better than seen here and that was solved. I still have some internal pressure somewhere thats slightly effecting my clickwheel. I will probably open it again to smooth it out even more. I got good at mating the little cables back into their sockets, but this was a bi... at first. Sound? it sounds great! better? I can't tell yet. I'm waiting for the epoxy on the dock to dry and will give it more of a listen. BG burn in starts now (and I believe in it too, my MAX showed me their way).

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Old 12-22-2007, 05:56 PM   #373 (permalink)
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Wow that's a really neat dock there. And well... I just hope there's nothing wrong with my mod. Still burning in. By the way, you think my hypothesis bout the headphone jack receiving the same signal as my LOD is possible?

(oh that's my dad's soldering btw)

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Wait a week, if the mod sounds worse, you're listening to black gates Then wait another month, if it sounds better, you're still listening to black gates It seems unlikely that they're the same output, specially if the line out volume isn't controlled by the ipod. I guess the ipod volume control directly controls the internal amplifier circuit, which you're obviously bypassing. Give it some time, then compare again
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Old 12-22-2007, 06:35 PM   #375 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ruZZ.il View Post
Success This is an iMod of a nano first gen. I bypassed the whole internal wiring and maintained all original functionality. I cleaned it up a lot since the pic of the inside (forgot to take another one..). Soldering the wires internally to the dock pins was really difficult, so I don't recommend anyone do this (naturally, some will anyway). as I mentioned before, I used a little bit of teflon tubing to duct the wire through and hold it in place. I used hot glue to keep them in place. I used some multistrand wire I had lying around. I cut most of the strand at the end, leaving just one. I put a little solder blob where I cut just to keep it all together. The single strand is about the width of the pins, and it took me many attempts to get this right (admittedly, I believe it would have been easier with a good iron). I had some issues with the wire sticking out at first, that effected the screen. I router the wires a little better than seen here and that was solved. I still have some internal pressure somewhere thats slightly effecting my clickwheel. I will probably open it again to smooth it out even more. I got good at mating the little cables back into their sockets, but this was a bi... at first. Sound? it sounds great! better? I can't tell yet. I'm waiting for the epoxy on the dock to dry and will give it more of a listen. BG burn in starts now (and I believe in it too, my MAX showed me their way).

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Wow. That's a pretty cool job! Very clean!

I noticed that you did not remove the C53/C54 caps. Did you remove the inductors at the dock pins? Which dock pins did you solder the signals to if not the line-out ones?

Assuming you soldered the wires to the line-out pins. I was under the impression that you need to remove the capacitors and inductors for the line-out to not get both modded and unmodded signals.

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Old 12-22-2007, 06:47 PM   #376 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by KoKoKrunch View Post
But iMod uses headphone out. Line out already = no volume control. My headphone out is preserved. Even so, it should not affect anything.

Jonee, do you see anything wrong with my bridges??? My DIY iPod mod endeavour - 10+ huge images - BAMod!
There are more detailed pictures there. I'm feeling confused and a lil disappointed now, doubt there's anything wrong though...
well, maybe it's time to let BG caps to burned-in...

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I just finished my 1 gen nano mode. Comming very soon!
oh, picts please...

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Success This is an iMod of a nano first gen. I bypassed the whole internal wiring and maintained all original functionality. I cleaned it up a lot since the pic of the inside (forgot to take another one..). Soldering the wires internally to the dock pins was really difficult, so I don't recommend anyone do this (naturally, some will anyway). as I mentioned before, I used a little bit of teflon tubing to duct the wire through and hold it in place. I used hot glue to keep them in place. I used some multistrand wire I had lying around. I cut most of the strand at the end, leaving just one. I put a little solder blob where I cut just to keep it all together. The single strand is about the width of the pins, and it took me many attempts to get this right (admittedly, I believe it would have been easier with a good iron). I had some issues with the wire sticking out at first, that effected the screen. I router the wires a little better than seen here and that was solved. I still have some internal pressure somewhere thats slightly effecting my clickwheel. I will probably open it again to smooth it out even more. I got good at mating the little cables back into their sockets, but this was a bi... at first. Sound? it sounds great! better? I can't tell yet. I'm waiting for the epoxy on the dock to dry and will give it more of a listen. BG burn in starts now (and I believe in it too, my MAX showed me their way).

Thank you to everyone who's contributed to this thread showing me the way.
aha, this are exactly what i want to do with my Nano...nice mod, ruZZ.il...can you give us pict (macro or super macro) from your pict HERE which route that you'd used from C53 and C54 to which one for dock connector ? many thx...
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the bypass looks great! it might have been easier on the internal pressure if you used some smaller gauged wires. (my nano mod used 30-32 awg, soldering to the pads was alot easier.)
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Dude, your dock is clean!! Nice job!
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sorry if i'm wrong but i see your dock then i'm wondering what pins that you using...it's look like it's not pin 1/2, 3, 4, or is it ?
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I used the unused pins 14 and 17, hooked straight up to the output of the DAC, its basically in parallel to the whole existing output, so I've still got normal headphone out, normal line out with a normal dock, and iMod line out with the custom dock. but I reeeally would have had an easier time with the right wire and solder iron.. and would have had a lot harder time if I had any less steady of a hand. Ultimately, I'm not sure its even worth trying to keep the current line out.. it would probably have been easier to solder into the current line out pins somewhere accessible and just jumper the internal caps.. just making sure to always use an iMod dock.
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