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Old 05-29-2008, 07:12 PM   #1121 (permalink)
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hi all...

just stopping by to see this thread, til' now haven't fix my LOD yet, since a haven't got my own headamp to use the LOD... lol
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:14 AM   #1122 (permalink)
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I've read through about a quarter of this thread, trying to glean as much as possible, and I'm left with one question. Is it worth modding the 3rd Gen iPod? I know that the Wolfson DAC in the 3rd Gen isn't as good as the DACs of the 4G and 5G/5.5G. Considering that I have a 3G (30gig), is there a noticable difference between unmodded 3G lineout, and modded 3G? Thanks for your thoughs.
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I've read through about a quarter of this thread, trying to glean as much as possible, and I'm left with one question. Is it worth modding the 3rd Gen iPod? I know that the Wolfson DAC in the 3rd Gen isn't as good as the DACs of the 4G and 5G/5.5G. Considering that I have a 3G (30gig), is there a noticable difference between unmodded 3G lineout, and modded 3G? Thanks for your thoughs.
I can't say from experience, but if you've built a millet MAX, it shouldn't be that tough a mod for you right? Try it and let us know if you hear a difference
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:21 PM   #1124 (permalink)
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I can't say from experience, but if you've built a millet MAX, it shouldn't be that tough a mod for you right? Try it and let us know if you hear a difference
The Millett MAX will be coming soon, it's still in the planning process right now. After I get the Millett up and running, I might look into a little DIYmod action. Just want to know if it's worth it.
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Unless you have a 3G and either the 4G or 5G, I don't think you need to worry whether or not the sound is better in the 3G compared to the other two. The better question (which you did ask) is whether unmodded 3G is better than modded 3G, and to that, I'd have to go with modded. Sadly, this conclusion isn't based on experience but rather from transference. Going from small, "low quality" caps to larger, "high quality" caps seems to work well with the other diyMods, so why not with this one? I've AB-ed between 22uF and 47uF in my 4G, and by far I prefer the latter. I've tried it with 1.0uF VitQs and 220uF Nichicon PWs, and the setup I prefer the most is the 47uF BGs for their balance of convenience and sound quality. I am working on a 3G right now, so I can give you quick impressions. Really, there isn't any guarantee that you'll like the diyMod over the stock version, but at least you'll have a chance to roll different caps to suit your style. You only have to go as far as the first page to see all the different kinds of setups we have in the way of diyMods.

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hey guys. I have been looking into this diyMod recently. I saw that RWA does this and the headphone out is not messed with. Therefore you can still access the same bad quality sound via the headphone jack.

With the DIY mod can you still access the headphone jack or is it unuseable?
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:34 PM   #1127 (permalink)
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hey guys. I have been looking into this diyMod recently. I saw that RWA does this and the headphone out is not messed with. Therefore you can still access the same bad quality sound via the headphone jack.

With the DIY mod can you still access the headphone jack or is it unuseable?
The 5G iPod uses the Wolfson DAC "line out" for line level signals and "headphone out" for headphone signal so by doing the mod on the line out, there is no change to the headphone functionality. Kind of makes you wonder why there is so much crap in the output stage if they're simply using the WM chip for it
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aha.. thats rediculous.

So does it matter what wire you use to connect the pads in the 5g ipod mod? I have 26 awg wire that I think will work. Dont have 30 awg... but it is from a cat3 cable.
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aha.. thats rediculous.

So does it matter what wire you use to connect the pads in the 5g ipod mod? I have 26 awg wire that I think will work. Dont have 30 awg... but it is from a cat3 cable.
Whatever fits, feel free to go as "audiophile" as you wish. I used 26awg gold plated copper in Teflon and it was a very tight fit.
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Will there ever be a DIYmod for the classic?
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