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| Headphone Amps (full-size) Discussion of desktop headphone amps. |

01-31-2008, 06:17 PM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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Location: Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clok
Yeah, I think it has but Im probably going to upgrade to XtremeMusic.
So I need the coaxial cable and some kind of adapter, ASIO?
It`s not possible to connect the soundcard to the zero with just one cable?
Anyway, I looked at ebay and I didnt see any Zero DAC`s for sale. 
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Looks like Davve has you covered on the ebay thing. Both the Audigy2 and the X-Fi have the flexi-jack, the top one in the pic. The adapter I'm talking about is a simple little thing, has a female RCA on one end and mini male on the other, it is mono. I got mine at radio shack for like $1. You can use a single RCA cord if you don't have a coaxial handy, but they are not as heavily shielded as a coaxial cable is.
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01-31-2008, 06:31 PM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davve
Okay can you help me out wich i can use in hp amp and dac.
I have one 1361CN8, one 1361CN8#PBF, one 1469IN8#PBF, two 1364CN8#PBF. some is named CN8 and IN8 whats the diffrent if gonna order i want the hole name becouse there seems to be diffrence.
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Sure. The ones to order are always CN8 or CN8#PBF. The #PBF means "lead free" and they are identical to the ones without it (except no lead).
The leading Opamps so far (this changes as more combo's are tried) have been: One LT1364 in the DAC on the mainboard, and two LT1469s in the Headphone board. I'm sure you are going to get more, so based on what you have, I'd put one LT1364 in the DAC on the mainboard, and two LT1361s in the Headphone board. This will sound pretty good until you can get the LT1469s for the headphone board.
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01-31-2008, 06:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penchum
Sure. The ones to order are always CN8 or CN8#PBF. The #PBF means "lead free" and they are identical to the ones without it (except no lead).
The leading Opamps so far (this changes as more combo's are tried) have been: One LT1364 in the DAC on the mainboard, and two LT1469s in the Headphone board. I'm sure you are going to get more, so based on what you have, I'd put one LT1364 in the DAC on the mainboard, and two LT1361s in the Headphone board. This will sound pretty good until you can get the LT1469s for the headphone board. 
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Okey thanks! are there any diffrence in sound if they are lead free? so its okay that i use one lead free and one not lead free? So i should have two LT1469CN8#PBF in headphone amp?
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Phones: HD650, HD485
Source: M-Audio 192, Zero Dac, Constantine+
Amp: DV332 (CV4010, Ulys 6S19P-V
Gone: HD595, DV336i
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01-31-2008, 06:55 PM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davve
Okey thanks! are there any diffrence in sound if they are lead free? so its okay that i use one lead free and one not lead free? So i should have two LT1469CN8#PBF in headphone amp?
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Correct. No difference between the Lead and no Lead. You can run them in the headphone board, no problems. It would be the best combo so far to have the LT1469's in the headphone board.
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01-31-2008, 07:19 PM
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Is anyone, who live in EU country bought this from ebay?
Just wondering do I have pay any custom fees?
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01-31-2008, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clok
Is anyone, who live in EU country bought this from ebay?
Just wondering do I have pay any custom fees?
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I live in sweden and i didn't have to pay customs i was glad for that  on the package it was marked as gift and value was HK$1000. and drescription what was in the package, 1 piece audio processor.
Penchum how do i remove the opamp easiest way? it seems to be stuck i just remove it with my fingers?
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Source: M-Audio 192, Zero Dac, Constantine+
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Gone: HD595, DV336i
Last edited by davve; 01-31-2008 at 07:41 PM.
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01-31-2008, 07:54 PM
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Location: Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clok
Is anyone, who live in EU country bought this from ebay?
Just wondering do I have pay any custom fees?
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The Zero was delivered to Germany by TNT, no customs duty.
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01-31-2008, 08:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davve
I live in sweden and i didn't have to pay customs i was glad for that  on the package it was marked as gift and value was HK$1000. and drescription what was in the package, 1 piece audio processor.
Penchum how do i remove the opamp easiest way? it seems to be stuck i just remove it with my fingers?
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Ah lucky you, I got it today and had to pay customs
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H X-fi XtremeMusic -> ASIO -> Optical -> Gamma2 / Zero dac (OPA-Earth) -> CK2III / Zero internal amp -> RS1 "brown headband" / HD600 '02 / K501 .v1 / HF-2
P Cowon D2 - Head-Direct RE0
Other Fiio portable amp / Playstation SCHP-1002
Gone: DT990 '05 32ohm, HD650 with Oehlbach cable / Meier Corda Headfive / MS2i / DT880 '05 250ohm / RS1 "buttonless" '08 / LD MKIII / Audio-Technica ATH-AD2000
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01-31-2008, 08:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Henmyr
Ah lucky you, I got it today and had to pay customs 
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I know that hurts, when i got my DV i had to pay customs. What was written on your package i only had luck?
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01-31-2008, 08:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davve
I know that hurts, when i got my DV i had to pay customs. What was written on your package i only had luck?
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It was marked like yours: "it was marked as gift and value was HK$1000. and drescription what was in the package, 1 piece audio processor."
I didn't have to pay anything for my ms2i when I got them, so I think it's mostly luck or bad luck.
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P Cowon D2 - Head-Direct RE0
Other Fiio portable amp / Playstation SCHP-1002
Gone: DT990 '05 32ohm, HD650 with Oehlbach cable / Meier Corda Headfive / MS2i / DT880 '05 250ohm / RS1 "buttonless" '08 / LD MKIII / Audio-Technica ATH-AD2000
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01-31-2008, 08:49 PM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davve
I live in sweden and i didn't have to pay customs i was glad for that  on the package it was marked as gift and value was HK$1000. and drescription what was in the package, 1 piece audio processor.
Penchum how do i remove the opamp easiest way? it seems to be stuck i just remove it with my fingers?
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If you have a pair of needle nose pliers, you can carefully grasp the chip at both ends, only exert enough force to slightly wiggle it up and out. Always the least amount of force.
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01-31-2008, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penchum
If you have a pair of needle nose pliers, you can carefully grasp the chip at both ends, only exert enough force to slightly wiggle it up and out. Always the least amount of force. 
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If you have a pair of needle nose pliers <--- what is that? a forceps that you pull out nose hair with?
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Phones: HD650, HD485
Source: M-Audio 192, Zero Dac, Constantine+
Amp: DV332 (CV4010, Ulys 6S19P-V
Gone: HD595, DV336i
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01-31-2008, 09:05 PM
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Location: Manchester, England
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Received my free samples today from Linea Technology, not bad since they said up to 14 days and it's been 2.
They didn't include the LT1364 for the dac so I am stuck with just the 2 LT1469CN8#PBF in the headphone amp at the minute. I used needle nose pliers to remove the old op amps as it was fiddly to get my fingers in their. I'm going to wait a week to see if they forward the LT1364 on separately before I buy one but so far so good.
I've got about 12hours use on the Zero now, i think it's sounding better now although this may all be in my head as I can't specifically pick out the differences not being a audiophile. Drums seem clearer, bass is getting deeper and songs with acoustic guitars you can hear the strings being strummed quite clearly.
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Regretting finding head-fi:
1 x Livewires
1 x Zero 24 BIT/192KHz DAC/Headphone Amp/Pre-Amp
1 x Sennheiser HD650
1 x Poorly bank balence
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01-31-2008, 09:07 PM
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Head-Fi'er
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Quote:
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If you have a pair of needle nose pliers <--- what is that? a forceps that you pull out nose hair with?
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Although something might this might do
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Regretting finding head-fi:
1 x Livewires
1 x Zero 24 BIT/192KHz DAC/Headphone Amp/Pre-Amp
1 x Sennheiser HD650
1 x Poorly bank balence
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01-31-2008, 09:29 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Malmø
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Received my Zero today :-)
Seems to work fine, using an discarded CD-player as burning device.
But as always there is an but..
the Coax led indicator goes on and off.. does not seem to influence the audio output, but it's extremely annoying.. (if i wanted an Light organ i will buy it separate..) As earlier indicated by an user the diodes are way to strong for my taste,, (also some are bright green while one other are more blue-greenish)
The volume knob was also broken (only the plastic thingy the potentiometer works fine.)
but I'm happy..
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