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01-29-2008, 10:45 PM
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Do you mean using the built-in headphone amp, or from the DAC to your MK?
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I'm only using Zero right now. Pretty nice sound from Zero's headamp, but I still prefer the less sharp highs from tubes.
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01-29-2008, 10:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seba
I'm only using Zero right now. Pretty nice sound from Zero's headamp, but I still prefer the less sharp highs from tubes.
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Ow, ok! Ya, no doubt! Hows the burn-in coming along? 
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01-29-2008, 11:27 PM
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Mines getting better now, about 30 hours, but my power LED has gone, I've emailed Lawrence.
My SB card has 3 output options for the digital, 44.1, 48 & 96.
Reading up a bit on Benchmarks site, they suggest setting the output to the same as the encoded material, in this case 44.1, anyone here got any advice?
Thanks
The LittleDot MKV is opening up too
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Source: iPods; Nano G1, Mini G1, Shuffle G1, 40GB G2, 40GB G3, iPhone 3g
DAC: Zero
I/C: TURBODock V8, TURBO DIABOLOUS V8, ALO CryoDock, ALO Cryo SXC 22G
Portable Amps:RSA Hornet, RSA Predator, RSA SR-71A Blackbird, RSA SP-51 Mustang, Go-Vibe V6 V6M V7, Corda Move, Headsix,XIN Supermicro (On Order), iBasso D1 & P2, HeadAmp Pico w/DAC, Little Dot MKV
HeadPhones:Senn HD520II, Senn HD650, 8ft Equinox Noir, Yuin PK1, Beyerdynamic DT770-Pro/80 Ohm, Westone 3
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01-30-2008, 12:08 AM
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its gone bright again now, oh well see what lawrence says.
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DAC: Zero
I/C: TURBODock V8, TURBO DIABOLOUS V8, ALO CryoDock, ALO Cryo SXC 22G
Portable Amps:RSA Hornet, RSA Predator, RSA SR-71A Blackbird, RSA SP-51 Mustang, Go-Vibe V6 V6M V7, Corda Move, Headsix,XIN Supermicro (On Order), iBasso D1 & P2, HeadAmp Pico w/DAC, Little Dot MKV
HeadPhones:Senn HD520II, Senn HD650, 8ft Equinox Noir, Yuin PK1, Beyerdynamic DT770-Pro/80 Ohm, Westone 3
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01-30-2008, 12:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mp101
Reading up a bit on Benchmarks site, they suggest setting the output to the same as the encoded material, in this case 44.1, anyone here got any advice?
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Benchmarks DAC1 has an ASRC which re-samples all incoming signal to 110kHz, because in their eyes the DAC (AD1853) loves this frequency and produces the best possible analogue signal. Even if the source is 192k, it's down-sampled to 110kHz.
If Zeros receiver CS8416 doesn't do an up-sampling, I would produce a 96kHz signal for the DAC (AD1852).
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01-30-2008, 03:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kmel
Benchmarks DAC1 has an ASRC which re-samples all incoming signal to 110kHz, because in their eyes the DAC (AD1853) loves this frequency and produces the best possible analogue signal. Even if the source is 192k, it's down-sampled to 110kHz.
If Zeros receiver CS8416 doesn't do an up-sampling, I would produce a 96kHz signal for the DAC (AD1852).
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This is what my X-Fi ExtremeMusic is doing. Sounds excellent!
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01-30-2008, 04:16 AM
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This is what my X-Fi ExtremeMusic is doing. Sounds excellent! |
Hope you don't use CMSS3D or the 24-bit crystallizer: Gamers: X-Fi worth it?
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01-30-2008, 08:58 AM
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Ow, ok! Ya, no doubt! Hows the burn-in coming along? |
I have feeded pink noise from my PC to it all night and I have hooked up my Sennheiser PX200's to the headamp because I don't want to risk my RS-2's if anything bad happens.
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01-30-2008, 09:10 AM
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Thanks guys, all EAX & CMSS options are disabled.
I did notice a very small change between 44.1 48 & 96, so left it at 96.
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01-30-2008, 04:43 PM
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Hi, sorry I took so long. No, I have all the "bells & whistles" turned off. It's the only way to have a "clean" signal.
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01-30-2008, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mp101
Mines getting better now, about 30 hours, but my power LED has gone, I've emailed Lawrence.
My SB card has 3 output options for the digital, 44.1, 48 & 96.
Reading up a bit on Benchmarks site, they suggest setting the output to the same as the encoded material, in this case 44.1, anyone here got any advice?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by mp101
its gone bright again now, oh well see what lawrence says.
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If the brightness dims, or goes out, try cycling the power. I discovered that static electricity to the headphone cable was causing my Zero's protection circuits to kick in. Darn dry weather!!!
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01-30-2008, 06:27 PM
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01-31-2008, 04:01 AM
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[QUOTE=davve;3732483]I picked up mine after work today! 
Great. How does it sound initially to you?
Nice pics by the way!!
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01-31-2008, 01:25 PM
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Is this what I want?
My rig would be then,
PC soundcard (Audigy 2 ZS atm) - Zero - AKG K271 STUDIO
Do I need buy any cables to get all work out?
Just dont wanna spend too much money for 1st setup.
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01-31-2008, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clok
Is this what I want?
My rig would be then,
PC soundcard (Audigy 2 ZS atm) - Zero - AKG K271 STUDIO
Do I need buy any cables to get all work out?
Just dont wanna spend too much money for 1st setup.
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Your Audigy 2 ZS has coaxial out from the flexi-jack (top one) on the back, correct? Then all you need is a coaxial cable and the coaxial to mini jack adapter, so you can plug-in to the Audigy's flexi-jack. The other end of the coaxial cable plugs into the Zero. In the software, you'd tell it to use digital out and turn off stuff like the 3D and EAX. Ta-Da! On the Zero, you would select coaxial as the source and select phones to activate the headphone amp. The volume knob on the Zero is for the headphone amp, so you would control the volume there, not in the software of our computer.
I do this exact same thing with my X-fi and it is great! This is the perfect upgrade path with a budget in mind. The Zero will mature nicely in about 100hrs of use, and later if you want to, you can change Opamps in it to change the sound to your tastes. If you decide to pickup a tube amp later, you can use the Zero's DAC output on the back to drive the new tube amp.
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