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01-28-2008, 08:25 AM
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01-28-2008, 10:52 AM
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Just another question, how do you change the opamps? Does it involve advance stuff like soldering or is it just more like changing RAM on a PC motherboard plug n' play?
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01-28-2008, 11:02 AM
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01-28-2008, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
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Yes, thanks for the explanation. I guess I have always assumed that since it had a DAC on board the amp would use it.... we all know what assuming gets you  .
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Ya, my favorite is ASSuming.
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01-28-2008, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
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quick question, can you use the RCAs to connect to the source and still use it as a headphone amp?
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Nope, sorry. The RCA's are DAC output only. There is no by-pass. So this makes the Zero a "digital only" on inputs, which fits the majority of user's needs. Have a good one!
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01-28-2008, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
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Just another question, how do you change the opamps? Does it involve advance stuff like soldering or is it just more like changing RAM on a PC motherboard plug n' play?
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The Opamps are in sockets, so you pull one out, push one in. Very easy.
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01-28-2008, 01:03 PM
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Thank you for fixing this! and lets get on talking about the Zero's!
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01-28-2008, 01:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penchum
The Opamps are in sockets, so you pull one out, push one in. Very easy. 
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Oh... :/
Damnit I should payed more attention to your extensive talk about the opamps, didn't know it was that easy!!
Btw is the opamps used in the DAC, amplifying or pre-amp process? Man I truly an a noob at this still
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01-28-2008, 01:10 PM
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Thanks very much ptiJean! PM me and let me try to help with your situation, Ok? Thanks!!
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01-28-2008, 01:13 PM
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Thanks very much ptiJean! PM me and let me try to help with your situation, Ok? Thanks!! 
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You're a nice guy, I respect that!
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01-28-2008, 01:13 PM
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Quote:
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Oh... :/
Damnit I should payed more attention to your extensive talk about the opamps, didn't know it was that easy!!
Btw is the opamps used in the DAC, amplifying or pre-amp process? Man I truly an a noob at this still 
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Actually, I'm not sure which "term" is used, because some of them have a pretty high output. I'm going to guess pre-amp process. Can someone correct me, if needed?
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01-28-2008, 01:32 PM
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You're a nice guy, I respect that!
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Thanks! I PM'd you too.
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01-28-2008, 02:53 PM
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Oh forgot to ask how many opamp slots are there? Just two right? Otherwise the amount of combinations would explode exponentially, that wouldn't be nice =/
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01-28-2008, 03:09 PM
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Quote:
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Oh forgot to ask how many opamp slots are there? Just two right? Otherwise the amount of combinations would explode exponentially, that wouldn't be nice =/
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There is one Opamp for the DAC section. There are two Opamps in the Headphone board, L&R. We discovered some time ago that changing the DAC Opamp will change the sound of the DAC output and the headphone output.
If you change Opamps only in the headphone board, it will change only the output at the headphone jack.
So, when I was trying different combinations, I was indeed trying different combinations. That chart represents the better part of a long day! But, I think it will help some folks.
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01-28-2008, 03:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penchum
There is one Opamp for the DAC section. There are two Opamps in the Headphone board, L&R. We discovered some time ago that changing the DAC Opamp will change the sound of the DAC output and the headphone output.
If you change Opamps only in the headphone board, it will change only the output at the headphone jack.
So, when I was trying different combinations, I was indeed trying different combinations. That chart represents the better part of a long day! But, I think it will help some folks. 
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Ok. But since your chart shows combinations of two opamps at once, one DAC one Amp, you must have held one constant on the headphone board if it had two slots?
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