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  #8896 (permalink)  
Old 04-25-2009, 08:34 AM
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Hello,
I have bought mine with HDAM on ebay on November.
Yesterday I was listening musing, then suddenly no sound.
Nor on headphone and line out.
I can ear the relay click when input signal is detected but no sound.

Any idea of what is the problem ?
Coul it be the Hdam that is out of order ? or something more serious ?

Thanks for your help

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Do you still have the original opamp? That'd be a good way to test...
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Yep, I have it and same problem...
I don't know if Lawrence will accept to send me another mainboard....
I have a little electronical skills, but without knowing exactly what part to change I can't repair myself...
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Yep, I have it and same problem...
I don't know if Lawrence will accept to send me another mainboard....
I have a little electronical skills, but without knowing exactly what part to change I can't repair myself...
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Yep, I have it and same problem...
I don't know if Lawrence will accept to send me another mainboard....
I have a little electronical skills, but without knowing exactly what part to change I can't repair myself...
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Yep, I have it and same problem...
I don't know if Lawrence will accept to send me another mainboard....
I have a little electronical skills, but without knowing exactly what part to change I can't repair myself...
We heard you the first 2 times!

Do you have a set of PC speakers or another headphone amp?

Try to Run off the DAC output to see if it is the Head amp or the DAC that has the problem.

Are you using a Sound Card, make sure it works, your headphone works, etc. Have you done anything to the Zero recently?

It seems strange you would ask if you had done anything wrong, got an answer, then something goes wrong??

Are you telling us EVERYTHING?

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We heard you the first 2 times!
Humm not really, I remember that I have discussed with you in the past about Lawrence, HDAM etc... but it was more than 6 month ago

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Do you have a set of PC speakers or another headphone amp?

Try to Run off the DAC output to see if it is the Head amp or the DAC that has the problem.
Yes of course, to be honnest I mostly use the DAC with a Gainclone and a pair of Eltax monitor III.
Output and headphone does not produce sound

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Are you using a Sound Card, make sure it works, your headphone works, etc. Have you done anything to the Zero recently?
I use 2 differents sources, my headphone works, my amp works.

In fact yesterday, I was programming an Iphone application and it was very late, my wife was sleeping so I was listening music with a pair of headphones.
And suddenly, no sound, I first thought that the problem came from the Mac, this morning same problem, no sound, only the relay "click". Tested also with my DVD player same problem, and I have done then a lot of tests without any success..

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Are you telling us EVERYTHING?
No ..I was so exited (good programming job done) so I was listening some dance music,..do you think that the Zero dac does not support dance music ?
.... Kidding....
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Humm not really, I remember that I have discussed with you in the past about Lawrence, HDAM etc... but it was more than 6 month ago
You obviously didn't GET the Joke here, look at your posts above


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Yes of course, to be honnest I mostly use the DAC with a Gainclone and a pair of Eltax monitor III.
Output and headphone does not produce sound



I use 2 differents sources, my headphone works, my amp works.

In fact yesterday, I was programming an Iphone application and it was very late, my wife was sleeping so I was listening music with a pair of headphones.
And suddenly, no sound, I first thought that the problem came from the Mac, this morning same problem, no sound, only the relay "click". Tested also with my DVD player same problem, and I have done then a lot of tests without any success..


No ..I was so exited (good programming job done) so I was listening some dance music,..do you think that the Zero dac does not support dance music ?
.... Kidding....
Sounds like you've been hit with the Zero Curse...

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You obviously didn't GET the Joke here, look at your posts above
Houps... haven't seen it....

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Sounds like you've been hit with the Zero Curse...
Yep..At the begining, received it without HDAM and Alps pot and now I'm damned.

I have contacted Lawrence, he has asked me to send him back the board to china.
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Yep..At the begining, received it without HDAM and Alps pot and now I'm damned.

I have contacted Lawrence, he has asked me to send him back the board to china.
He's a Prince of a guy!

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Exclamation zero curse

Suddenly the sound was gone as I heard the relay click off, now It won't click on again - the zero doesn't work.

Any things to test to fix this? tried optical in to no avail, tried turning it on/off and letting it cool etc :|

It's a stock zero with a HDAM earth. It has acted up like this before as well, but now it seems to be final.
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Suddenly the sound was gone as I heard the relay click off, now It won't click on again - the zero doesn't work.

Any things to test to fix this? tried optical in to no avail, tried turning it on/off and letting it cool etc :|

It's a stock zero with a HDAM earth. It has acted up like this before as well, but now it seems to be final.
Look over all the components with a magnifying glass for any burn marks.

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Suddenly the sound was gone as I heard the relay click off, now It won't click on again - the zero doesn't work.

Any things to test to fix this? tried optical in to no avail, tried turning it on/off and letting it cool etc :|

It's a stock zero with a HDAM earth. It has acted up like this before as well, but now it seems to be final.
Mine was the same, though it didn't fail whilst I was listening. Used it one day, without issue, and the next it produced nothing. I checked what I could - regulator output voltages, continuity between the DAC IC and the opamp socket, and the opamp socket to the RCA outputs. Never got to the bottom of it...

Sadly, more and more of these Zero DACs are failing after a few months. Good luck getting support from Lawrence, he shafted me when a brand-new purchase was faulty out of the box...

Could be a very good time to upgrade to the Compass?

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Sounds like you've been hit with the Zero Curse...
The "Zero sound" curse? Ha!
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Guess I'll look for burn marks, but I bought it from wsz0304 on ebay with a 1year warranty. Guess I should snip back the snips before shipping it back?
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