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11-19-2008, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sandchak
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thanks, too bad he only has one...looks like I should also bid on this one 
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11-19-2008, 04:29 PM
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I just acquired a used DV332 with Ulyanovsk 6S19P-V and Mullard M8110 tubes to pair with my HD595. The bass seems to be (unusually) too pronounced and overpowering, and sounds very muddy, as if the higher frequencies have been lost. It sounds a lot like the Zero before I snipped off the caps at the headamp section and RCA jacks. Malos, who had the 332+595 combo said he did not have the impression, and I haven't heard complaints like this from 650 owners.
Could this be due to the iffy RCA jack on my Zero? The RCA cables fit very loosely (as in the holes of the RCA jack seem a little too large), and I had to use a lot of blutack and do a lot of adjustment before I could get a signal.
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Headphones: Audio-Technica AD2000 Sold: Sennheiser HD650 (Newer version) / Sennheiser HD595 50 Ohm / Alessandro MS1
Amplifiers: Audio-gd C-2C Upgraded version Sold: Darkvoice 332i w/ Svetlana 6S19P/LM Ericsson 403B Goldpin
Sources: Zero DAC/Amp (OPA-Moon/LT1364)
Cables: Mogami Neglex 2549 w/ Rebel RCA interconnect
last.fm
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11-19-2008, 04:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandchak
very nice indeed.. I wonder how you fit the HDAM and still able to close the top lid.. I use to hear it had to be placed somewhere else via extension cables to get the cover on..
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my Zero cant put the top cover i just open like that hehehe i prefer not using extension cable shorter is better :P
more close up picture
wut i mod :-
Putting Panasonic FC for Power section , Elna RJH for opamp supply , Nichicon Muse for DAC , Elna Silmic II and Silmic for regulator, puting 6N silver wire for RCA output with Neutrik RCA female plug.
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11-19-2008, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by shampoosuicide
I just acquired a used DV332 with Ulyanovsk 6S19P-V and Mullard M8110 tubes to pair with my HD595. The bass seems to be (unusually) too pronounced and overpowering, and sounds very muddy, as if the higher frequencies have been lost. It sounds a lot like the Zero before I snipped off the caps at the headamp section and RCA jacks. Malos, who had the 332+595 combo said he did not have the impression, and I haven't heard complaints like this from 650 owners.
Could this be due to the iffy RCA jack on my Zero? The RCA cables fit very loosely (as in the holes of the RCA jack seem a little too large), and I had to use a lot of blutack and do a lot of adjustment before I could get a signal.
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Poor contact is really going to compromise the signal. You need to get all the jacks tight fitting, how come they were so loose?
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11-19-2008, 07:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cuoreboy
my Zero cant put the top cover i just open like that hehehe i prefer not using extension cable shorter is better :P
more close up picture
wut i mod :-
Putting Panasonic FC for Power section , Elna RJH for opamp supply , Nichicon Muse for DAC , Elna Silmic II and Silmic for regulator, puting 6N silver wire for RCA output with Neutrik RCA female plug.
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Very nice indeed.. Thank God I am blind and not deaf.... 
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11-19-2008, 09:42 PM
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If I wanted to hook up a Zero dac to my laptop, how would something like the Xitel converter with a USB connection compare to having a plugging in soundcard and conneting it via an optical cord? Is there much sound quality difference between the two?
I'm thinking about getting an X-fi sound card but I wasn't sure how this would compare tothe USB connection route. Thanks.
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11-19-2008, 09:48 PM
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Yikes - guess nothing ever got resolved then? Did you at least get money back from paypal?
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Hiya Scottie,
Paypal washed their hands of me instantly. The item was not purchased through eBay, and as-such the Paypal "protection" is utterly worthless. Because my issue was with the quality of the product, and not with a missing product, they quite literally shut down my dispute immediately(despite me submitting several emails without response from the seller), finding that the seller had completed their obligations. This is despite the unit shipping with scratches on it, no sound from one channel, and standard opamps when the order clearly stated the purchase was of the unit with uprated opamps.
A lot of people on here seemed to think that I was over-reacting, and that Lawrence would come good in the end. He never made contact again, and more and more people on here started to come forward with problems with their purchase - from incorrectly installed opamps, and standard opamps rather than the paid-for upgraded items, to units built with incorrectly-orientated capacitors, and failing to work at all.
I ended up talking with my bank and having a chargeback issued against Paypal. With a little luck they'll deduct the money from the seller  .
It seems I was the first to encounter his period of selling after he paid less attention and put in less and less effort. Another member has emailed me, with similar contact problems with Lawrence, and has also had to instigate a chargeback after Paypal washed their hands of it all.
Paypal and Lawrence are as useful as each other.
~Phewl.
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Senn 480II-13R cans, overshadowed by...
Black Stax SRS-4040II rig - awesome! Loving it! Certainly worth most of the extortionate amount of pennies it cost. ;-)
Compass DAC by Audio-GD - very, very nicely made with a lovely sound. First UK owner?
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11-19-2008, 09:49 PM
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Also, would something like the Zero's DAC totally cancel out the DAC of a soundcard? Probably a stupid question.
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11-19-2008, 09:52 PM
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djchaz - you posted the same question at 42 minutes past the hour, and 49 minutes past the hour. You need to give folks a chance to respond! Someone will chime in with their opinion over the course of the next few hours .
~Phewl
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Senn 480II-13R cans, overshadowed by...
Black Stax SRS-4040II rig - awesome! Loving it! Certainly worth most of the extortionate amount of pennies it cost. ;-)
Compass DAC by Audio-GD - very, very nicely made with a lovely sound. First UK owner?
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11-19-2008, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AudioPhewl
djchaz - you posted the same question at 42 minutes past the hour, and 49 minutes past the hour. You need to give folks a chance to respond! Someone will chime in with their opinion over the course of the next few hours .
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Yes, check penchum's sig for a review of the laptop x-fi card. to his ears, it makes a pretty big difference. Those USB things can be shoddy, normally don't handle the high resolutions an audio card can, and (this last oone is personal preference but...) I don't like tying up my already over-busy USB bus with yet another device (one that needs to be as clean as possible).
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Xfi Fatal1ty (Coax, ASIO)-->Compass (OPA Sun V2)-->Little Dot MKIII (GE 5-star)-->HD600/SR325is/HFI-780 (S-Audio recable)/DT250-80
Gone: SR80, SR225, Sony 7506
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11-19-2008, 10:07 PM
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Always best to avoid unnecessary conversions, less jitter.
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PC (WASAPI) → AMB/Mr.X γ1 (W.I.P) → Pure Silver m-RCA D.I.Y → Millett Hybrid MiniMAX D.I.Y (W.I.P) / AMB Mini³ D.I.Y → Sennheiser HD-650 / Grado RS-80
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11-19-2008, 10:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AudioPhewl
Hiya Scottie,
Paypal washed their hands of me instantly.
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Paypal and Lawrence are as useful as each other.
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man that sucks - sorry to hear it! As someone who just a few weeks ago had to deal with chargebacks - I know how much it sucks. Why is it that we have to wait months for the bank to fix something someone else screwed up? Oh well. Hope it works out.
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Xfi Fatal1ty (Coax, ASIO)-->Compass (OPA Sun V2)-->Little Dot MKIII (GE 5-star)-->HD600/SR325is/HFI-780 (S-Audio recable)/DT250-80
Gone: SR80, SR225, Sony 7506
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11-19-2008, 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AudioPhewl
djchaz - you posted the same question at 42 minutes past the hour, and 49 minutes past the hour. You need to give folks a chance to respond! Someone will chime in with their opinion over the course of the next few hours .
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Sorry, man. When I tried to post my question it sent me to some advertisement page so I went back and posted it again. My bad.
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11-20-2008, 01:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTony
Poor contact is really going to compromise the signal. You need to get all the jacks tight fitting, how come they were so loose?
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I have no idea  I've only had the Zero for about a month and yesterday was the first time I had to use the RCA jacks. Come to think of it, the optical jack is a bit loose as well.
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Headphones: Audio-Technica AD2000 Sold: Sennheiser HD650 (Newer version) / Sennheiser HD595 50 Ohm / Alessandro MS1
Amplifiers: Audio-gd C-2C Upgraded version Sold: Darkvoice 332i w/ Svetlana 6S19P/LM Ericsson 403B Goldpin
Sources: Zero DAC/Amp (OPA-Moon/LT1364)
Cables: Mogami Neglex 2549 w/ Rebel RCA interconnect
last.fm
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11-20-2008, 01:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shampoosuicide
I just acquired a used DV332 with Ulyanovsk 6S19P-V and Mullard M8110 tubes to pair with my HD595. The bass seems to be (unusually) too pronounced and overpowering, and sounds very muddy, as if the higher frequencies have been lost. It sounds a lot like the Zero before I snipped off the caps at the headamp section and RCA jacks. Malos, who had the 332+595 combo said he did not have the impression, and I haven't heard complaints like this from 650 owners.
Could this be due to the iffy RCA jack on my Zero? The RCA cables fit very loosely (as in the holes of the RCA jack seem a little too large), and I had to use a lot of blutack and do a lot of adjustment before I could get a signal.
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Anyone else can chime in on this?
Because I'm seriously considering selling the DV332, but if the problem lies with the Zero, then I'll send it back to get fixed.
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Headphones: Audio-Technica AD2000 Sold: Sennheiser HD650 (Newer version) / Sennheiser HD595 50 Ohm / Alessandro MS1
Amplifiers: Audio-gd C-2C Upgraded version Sold: Darkvoice 332i w/ Svetlana 6S19P/LM Ericsson 403B Goldpin
Sources: Zero DAC/Amp (OPA-Moon/LT1364)
Cables: Mogami Neglex 2549 w/ Rebel RCA interconnect
last.fm
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