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| Headphone Amps (full-size) Discussion of desktop headphone amps. |
03-04-2008, 11:08 PM
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i hope not, i've also 3 different spdif output to try!
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03-04-2008, 11:13 PM
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Just ordered one yesterday
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03-04-2008, 11:38 PM
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Thanks everyone for all your help and comments.
I think maybe msn rejects gmail out of hand just to, you know, compete with Google ;-)
Anyway, I'm still thinking I'll jump at this. It does seem almost too good to be true, so one hesitates..
P.S. I did a "quick reply" from my previous post ("email bounced"), and it puts this post at the top level? I know I'm new to this site, but that don't seem right...
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03-05-2008, 12:07 AM
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Hi guys!
i've been looking into the Zero now for some long, but I have to confess I did not have the corage to read the entire 200 pages of this thread, so I'll just ask my issue:
- Currently my main source of music is my pc. It has both USB and SPDIF optical outputs.
- I've been looking for a DAC and an amp to connect to my pc, but I really can't spend a lot of money (as I would like to...)
And then i read about Zero.... so my questions are:
- How good is Zero as a DAC?
- How goos is Zero as combo DAC/amp?
- Will the Zero drive well both my Grado and my high impedance AKG/Beyers?
- Is the dac good enough to stay with it if I want to upgrade to better amp later?
Cheers!
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Musical Fidelity X-Can V3
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Sennheiser - HD580 | AKG - K701 | Beyerdynamic - DT880 '03 | Grado - SR325 | Audio Technica - ES7 | Alessandro MS-1 (my review) | Sennheiser - PX100
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03-05-2008, 12:10 AM
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... and, for instance how does it compare with Beresford MK6?...
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03-05-2008, 09:22 PM
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Well, I got the Zero in today, it came broken. The front panel was installed incorrectly or damaged during shipping. The coax and optical buttons were loose in the box and so were some screws. It powers on, but when I use optical in I have to turn the zero to max and windows volume to max. When I do this its very very very quiet and sounds terrible. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I think its broken. I e-mailed Lawrence, hopefully we can work something out. I'll probably try the zhaolu 2.5c or this Sweet-2 Mini Tube Amplifier W/ Tube Rectifier & USB DAC - (eBay.ca item 300203830968 end time 09-Mar-08 16:51:35 EDT)
but I'm not sure if the DAC on that tube amp is any good. Maybe someone has some insights on that?
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03-05-2008, 09:49 PM
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Ugh. Just what I didn't want to hear. Thanks. I think I'm gonna wait on this purchase. As I look around, I'm seeing other low $$ DAC/Amps. This one seems like a great non-portable, which is what I want, but I'm gettin' scared..
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03-05-2008, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thundercatslair
Well, I got the Zero in today, it came broken. The front panel was installed incorrectly or damaged during shipping. The coax and optical buttons were loose in the box and so were some screws. It powers on, but when I use optical in I have to turn the zero to max and windows volume to max. When I do this its very very very quiet and sounds terrible. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I think its broken. I e-mailed Lawrence, hopefully we can work something out. I'll probably try the zhaolu 2.5c or this Sweet-2 Mini Tube Amplifier W/ Tube Rectifier & USB DAC - (eBay.ca item 300203830968 end time 09-Mar-08 16:51:35 EDT)
but I'm not sure if the DAC on that tube amp is any good. Maybe someone has some insights on that? |
Ow man!  Sorry to hear about that! Wait for Lawrence to work something out. He may want to send another one too you. I hate when things get destroyed in shipping! Let us know what gets worked out. 
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03-05-2008, 10:25 PM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sorcer
Ugh. Just what I didn't want to hear. Thanks. I think I'm gonna wait on this purchase. As I look around, I'm seeing other low $$ DAC/Amps. This one seems like a great non-portable, which is what I want, but I'm gettin' scared..
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So far, out of what is now well over 100 buyers, this is the second one I've heard about killed in shipping. That is still extremely good odds.
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03-05-2008, 10:31 PM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricmat
Hi guys!
i've been looking into the Zero now for some long, but I have to confess I did not have the corage to read the entire 200 pages of this thread, so I'll just ask my issue:
- Currently my main source of music is my pc. It has both USB and SPDIF optical outputs.
- I've been looking for a DAC and an amp to connect to my pc, but I really can't spend a lot of money (as I would like to...)
And then i read about Zero.... so my questions are:
- How good is Zero as a DAC?
- How goos is Zero as combo DAC/amp?
- Will the Zero drive well both my Grado and my high impedance AKG/Beyers?
- Is the dac good enough to stay with it if I want to upgrade to better amp later?
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The Zero DAC section is very very good.
The Zero DAC/Amp section is very very good.
The Zero DAC/Amp will drive any headphone you plug into it.
The Zero DAC/Amp is the perfect upgrade unit. Buy the Zero, use it's Dual Mono Headphone amp for now. Later, buy a seperate headphone amp, drive it with the Zero's DAC output. You win!
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03-05-2008, 10:35 PM
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So far, out of what is now well over 100 buyers, this is the second one I've heard about killed in shipping. That is still extremely good odds. |
Thanks. I appreciate all the info and work you've put into this thread. It's people like you that make this site so fun.
It does seem like if this DAC/Amp sounds as good as you all say, it is THE best deal around, especially for a non-portable. I guess I'm being perhaps too careful.
Having said that, can you recommend a thread or just a few other DAC/Amps around this price that could be alternatives to the Zero? 
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03-06-2008, 01:54 AM
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i just got my dac today now i need to source some of the opamps you mentioned
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03-06-2008, 04:15 AM
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Quote:
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i just got my dac today now i need to source some of the opamps you mentioned
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Waiting on my DAC. Just curious, did ur order ship this last weekend too?
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03-06-2008, 06:39 AM
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Quote:
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Waiting on my DAC. Just curious, did ur order ship this last weekend too?
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When did you guys order yours? I ordered mine on 2/13 and haven't heard much from Lawrence about when it would be shipped. 
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03-06-2008, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sorcer
Thanks. I appreciate all the info and work you've put into this thread. It's people like you that make this site so fun.
It does seem like if this DAC/Amp sounds as good as you all say, it is THE best deal around, especially for a non-portable. I guess I'm being perhaps too careful.
Having said that, can you recommend a thread or just a few other DAC/Amps around this price that could be alternatives to the Zero? |
Yup, but consider the SUPER Pro DAC 707, also. For me, it sounds even better than the DAC part of the Zero. Cost $101 shipped for me - so you're (maybe) left with the money for a good home headphone amp, like the Cute Beyond or the O1.
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