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| Headphone Amps (full-size) Discussion of desktop headphone amps. |
12-13-2007, 04:04 AM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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Is the sound changing any on the Zero as time goes by?
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12-13-2007, 06:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamato8
Is the sound changing any on the Zero as time goes by?
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Well, I've done a little Opamp swapping, so that would be hard to determine now. I'm very confident that the majority of changes took place during my review. I reached a plateau where nothing changed for over 25 hours, so I declared it done. Even with the stock Opamp, it sounds very good. The LM4562 sounds excellent in it and I'm going to re-visit the OPA627s again here soon. It is a wonderful DAC/Amp that I find myself listening too much more often than I ever intended. 
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12-13-2007, 10:36 AM
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Does anyone know how this compares to the zhaolu 2.5
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12-13-2007, 02:15 PM
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Well I ordered one of these on Tuesday night from the eBay seller snow48_6. I hadn't read this thread in depth before then and in hindsight I wonder if it would have been better to order from the other seller - anyhow I'll report back when I get the Zero.
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12-13-2007, 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 304290
Does anyone know how this compares to the zhaolu 2.5
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I browsed around some Chinese sites on Sunday, a few people posted that they prefer the D2.5 because it sounded more detailed/refined & better lows but the sound stage was narrower with a higher price tag(this doesn't necessary apply here in the States); I can only read a little bit of simplified Chinese but don't know how to type it, so I couldn't search further to see if they're testing the two units as DAC/amp combo or with a separate amp.
With a huge Asian population in my neighborhood, I'm sure I'll be able to find a Zhaolu in one of our audio stores and harass the owner to let me listen with my own cans to find out what all the fuss is about. However like folks here had been saying over and over again, keep in mind that higher performance does not always mean "good sound", personal preference is different from ears to ears, there's no way to be sure.
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12-13-2007, 04:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sushicide
I browsed around some Chinese sites on Sunday, a few people posted that they prefer the D2.5 because it sounded more detailed/refined & better lows but the sound stage was narrower with a higher price tag(this doesn't necessary apply here in the States); I can only read a little bit of simplified Chinese but don't know how to type it, so I couldn't search further to see if they're testing the two units as DAC/amp combo or with a separate amp.
With a huge Asian population in my neighborhood, I'm sure I'll be able to find a Zhaolu in one of our audio stores and harass the owner to let me listen with my own cans to find out what all the fuss is about. However like folks here had been saying over and over again, keep in mind that higher performance does not always mean "good sound", personal preference is different from ears to ears, there's no way to be sure.
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I agree. Also, another big variable for units like this, are the Opamps installed. There are so many and so many individual tastes in sound that it is hard to even comment on them. However, since this is Opamp swap central, I'm sure everyone will find the Opamp that really does it for them. 
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12-13-2007, 04:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penchum
I agree. Also, another big variable for units like this, are the Opamps installed. There are so many and so many individual tastes in sound that it is hard to even comment on them. However, since this is Opamp swap central, I'm sure everyone will find the Opamp that really does it for them. |
This unit seems to be to good to be true. A dac/amp combo with swappable opamps almost for free. It will be very interesting to read some comparison review later on when more people have it.
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12-13-2007, 05:39 PM
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Did Chan send some of the Zeros already, or is everyone waiting for him to ship? Impatient, me?...
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12-13-2007, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
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Did Chan send some of the Zeros already, or is everyone waiting for him to ship? Impatient, me?...
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i ordered on the 11th, he emailed me back telling me there is a 10 day wait before they are shipped.
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12-13-2007, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penchum
I sometimes like to mod my amps exterior if I find something I don't like, or find something for it I do like. For the Zero, I found this replacement knob:
I purchased it from one of HeadFi's sponsors, Parts conneXion. It is a 26mm matte silver (just like the face on the Zero) and has a 6mm shaft diameter. So, if you get your Zero and the stock knob turns you off, just replace it with a nice one. |
too small.. =)
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12-13-2007, 11:52 PM
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Quote:
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too small.. =)
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For grins, I just measured the back end of the original knob. It is 28mm!
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12-13-2007, 11:56 PM
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Quote:
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For grins, I just measured the back end of the original knob. It is 28mm! |
lol =)
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12-14-2007, 12:17 AM
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I found out Santa is sending me some AD797's on a brown dog adapter, so I will have more to try out! Thank you Santa (and the elf that told me)!
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12-14-2007, 04:01 AM
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it's not the size that matters...
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12-14-2007, 04:21 AM
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Has anyone compared this to a better known portable or desktop amp? Just the sound of the amp compared to say a Hornet or a Xenos 1HA-EPC. Maybe an Arietta? Somebody must have heard at least a portable we can compare the SQ to!
Thanks to anyone who can shed some light here or even give an opinion.
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