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09-20-2007, 08:21 PM
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Thanks guys.
The Arietta sounds very good with Darth Beyers IMO, as do all Meier amps. I cannot answer questions like "worthwhile" differences though, because what is meaningful to me is not the same as what is meaningful to everyone else. The Arietta and Cantate both have crossfeed (all Meier amps do). I use Meier crossfeed - I like it.
I hope to formally compare the Cantate and the Lisa III soon.
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Headphones: JVC HP-DX1000, HA-RX900; Headphile Deep Cup Darth Beyers VXD3,VXD4; Beyerdynamic DT990/600 (Manufaktur) DT770/600 (Manufaktur), DT880/600 Balanced (Manufaktur); HiFi-Man HE-2 Planar Magnetic; Sennheiser PXC-350; Shure SRH840
Home amps: Ray Samuels Audio Stealth (Mullard ECC32/CV4003); Decware Zen CSP-2 (Amperex BB 6DJ8/Sophia Princess 274B); Darkvoice 337 (GEC 6AS7G's/Tung-Sol mesh plate 6SJ7GTs); Wheatfield Audio HA-2 (Mullard ECC32/GEC 6AS7G/GEC U52); Ming-Da MC84-C 07 (Mullard CV4004/EL84/EM87); Audiotailor Jade (GEC 6AS7G/Sylvania 5751); J. Sound Lab Headphone (Mullard 12AT7); Audio-GD Phoenix; Musical Paradise MP-301 (Ken-Rad 6V6GT/Mullard 6AU6)
Portable Amps: Ray Samuels Audio P-51 Mustang; Decware ZenHead; Qables iQube
Sources: Denon DP59L table + Clearaudio Maestro Wood / VPI Scoutmaster + Benz Micro Wood L2 > Audio Electronics PH-1 DJH Phono Preamp; Music Hall 25.2 DAC; Denon DVD-5900;Red Wine Audio iMod iPod (Apple Lossless) & ALO VCap dock; Sony SCD-555ES SACD player
Loudspeaker system: Krell KAV250 Preamp>Sunfire Signature II Power amp > B&W Nautilus 800 Signatures + Velodyne FSR-1500/Martin Logan Descent
Tube testers: B&K Dyna-quick 650 & Dyna-Jet 606
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09-20-2007, 08:27 PM
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Finally! Excellent review in that its certainly very useful. I've never paid attention to the Arietta until today. Suddenly im searching for all the information i can find on it. Sky, can you share a picture of the inside? (Pulling the trigger on a Meier suddenly became an easier decision  )
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09-20-2007, 08:30 PM
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you really do have a lot of amps. have you ever thought about selling all or most of them to fund one really big amp purchase - whatever that may - or do you think the opera, with the exception of the extremely expensive custom-made amps, is about as good as it can get; at least for single-ended use.
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09-20-2007, 09:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AnaKinDV8
Finally! Excellent review in that its certainly very useful. I've never paid attention to the Arietta until today. Suddenly im searching for all the information i can find on it. Sky, can you share a picture of the inside? (Pulling the trigger on a Meier suddenly became an easier decision  )
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No, sorry, I don't have permission for that.
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you really do have a lot of amps. have you ever thought about selling all or most of them to fund one really big amp purchase - whatever that may - or do you think the opera, with the exception of the extremely expensive custom-made amps, is about as good as it can get; at least for single-ended use.
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That wouldn't work for me. I need at least 3 home amps - one for the office, one for the bedroom (actually my main headphone rig) and one in the family room where my main stereo is.
But I also believe that the Opera, and my Blue Circle SBH, are at the very top level of performance, based on what I have listened to.
I also like variety
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Pics: Main Home Rig; Bedside Rig; Office Rig; Portable Rig;
Headphones: JVC HP-DX1000, HA-RX900; Headphile Deep Cup Darth Beyers VXD3,VXD4; Beyerdynamic DT990/600 (Manufaktur) DT770/600 (Manufaktur), DT880/600 Balanced (Manufaktur); HiFi-Man HE-2 Planar Magnetic; Sennheiser PXC-350; Shure SRH840
Home amps: Ray Samuels Audio Stealth (Mullard ECC32/CV4003); Decware Zen CSP-2 (Amperex BB 6DJ8/Sophia Princess 274B); Darkvoice 337 (GEC 6AS7G's/Tung-Sol mesh plate 6SJ7GTs); Wheatfield Audio HA-2 (Mullard ECC32/GEC 6AS7G/GEC U52); Ming-Da MC84-C 07 (Mullard CV4004/EL84/EM87); Audiotailor Jade (GEC 6AS7G/Sylvania 5751); J. Sound Lab Headphone (Mullard 12AT7); Audio-GD Phoenix; Musical Paradise MP-301 (Ken-Rad 6V6GT/Mullard 6AU6)
Portable Amps: Ray Samuels Audio P-51 Mustang; Decware ZenHead; Qables iQube
Sources: Denon DP59L table + Clearaudio Maestro Wood / VPI Scoutmaster + Benz Micro Wood L2 > Audio Electronics PH-1 DJH Phono Preamp; Music Hall 25.2 DAC; Denon DVD-5900;Red Wine Audio iMod iPod (Apple Lossless) & ALO VCap dock; Sony SCD-555ES SACD player
Loudspeaker system: Krell KAV250 Preamp>Sunfire Signature II Power amp > B&W Nautilus 800 Signatures + Velodyne FSR-1500/Martin Logan Descent
Tube testers: B&K Dyna-quick 650 & Dyna-Jet 606
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09-20-2007, 09:32 PM
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Makes me feel all the more happy about my Opera. Really is a great amplifier. 
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09-20-2007, 09:53 PM
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im also eagerly waiting for the Lisa III vs Cantate
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09-20-2007, 09:59 PM
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thanks for another great review Skylab
i was pretty confused about the Meier lineup, where does the Headfive place in this?
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09-20-2007, 10:42 PM
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^Headfive is a little bit downgraded Arietta, from what I've read. Well, Arietta is more like an upgraded Headfive
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09-20-2007, 10:55 PM
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The Headfive was a limited edition amp that has sold out and is no longer available, except used. The Arietta is a slightly upgraded version of it.
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Pics: Main Home Rig; Bedside Rig; Office Rig; Portable Rig;
Headphones: JVC HP-DX1000, HA-RX900; Headphile Deep Cup Darth Beyers VXD3,VXD4; Beyerdynamic DT990/600 (Manufaktur) DT770/600 (Manufaktur), DT880/600 Balanced (Manufaktur); HiFi-Man HE-2 Planar Magnetic; Sennheiser PXC-350; Shure SRH840
Home amps: Ray Samuels Audio Stealth (Mullard ECC32/CV4003); Decware Zen CSP-2 (Amperex BB 6DJ8/Sophia Princess 274B); Darkvoice 337 (GEC 6AS7G's/Tung-Sol mesh plate 6SJ7GTs); Wheatfield Audio HA-2 (Mullard ECC32/GEC 6AS7G/GEC U52); Ming-Da MC84-C 07 (Mullard CV4004/EL84/EM87); Audiotailor Jade (GEC 6AS7G/Sylvania 5751); J. Sound Lab Headphone (Mullard 12AT7); Audio-GD Phoenix; Musical Paradise MP-301 (Ken-Rad 6V6GT/Mullard 6AU6)
Portable Amps: Ray Samuels Audio P-51 Mustang; Decware ZenHead; Qables iQube
Sources: Denon DP59L table + Clearaudio Maestro Wood / VPI Scoutmaster + Benz Micro Wood L2 > Audio Electronics PH-1 DJH Phono Preamp; Music Hall 25.2 DAC; Denon DVD-5900;Red Wine Audio iMod iPod (Apple Lossless) & ALO VCap dock; Sony SCD-555ES SACD player
Loudspeaker system: Krell KAV250 Preamp>Sunfire Signature II Power amp > B&W Nautilus 800 Signatures + Velodyne FSR-1500/Martin Logan Descent
Tube testers: B&K Dyna-quick 650 & Dyna-Jet 606
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09-21-2007, 12:06 AM
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Nice review. Makes me feel good about my purchase of the Cantate when it was just released as well (I need the USB input -> nice foobar to headphone action it certainly delivers), since the Opera was a bit out of my league financially wise (more than 2x Cantate) and I don't have 2 fullsize HPs anyway  . Thanks for the review.
As a side-question: what's the use of having 2 headphone outs anyway? Listening to two HPs at the same time? Maybe for HP A-B comparing/reviewing purposes, but that's about 0.0001% of total listening time? Listening with two people at the same time?
Edit: Doh, looked at the site: different output impedances. The Cantate can do that, but you have to screw off the top and put in the 3 shunts.
Side-question 2 then: did you review the Cantate on high or low gain?
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09-21-2007, 12:15 AM
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The Cantate was reviewed in low gain (as was recommended by many folks here). I did not try to examine the differences.
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Pics: Main Home Rig; Bedside Rig; Office Rig; Portable Rig;
Headphones: JVC HP-DX1000, HA-RX900; Headphile Deep Cup Darth Beyers VXD3,VXD4; Beyerdynamic DT990/600 (Manufaktur) DT770/600 (Manufaktur), DT880/600 Balanced (Manufaktur); HiFi-Man HE-2 Planar Magnetic; Sennheiser PXC-350; Shure SRH840
Home amps: Ray Samuels Audio Stealth (Mullard ECC32/CV4003); Decware Zen CSP-2 (Amperex BB 6DJ8/Sophia Princess 274B); Darkvoice 337 (GEC 6AS7G's/Tung-Sol mesh plate 6SJ7GTs); Wheatfield Audio HA-2 (Mullard ECC32/GEC 6AS7G/GEC U52); Ming-Da MC84-C 07 (Mullard CV4004/EL84/EM87); Audiotailor Jade (GEC 6AS7G/Sylvania 5751); J. Sound Lab Headphone (Mullard 12AT7); Audio-GD Phoenix; Musical Paradise MP-301 (Ken-Rad 6V6GT/Mullard 6AU6)
Portable Amps: Ray Samuels Audio P-51 Mustang; Decware ZenHead; Qables iQube
Sources: Denon DP59L table + Clearaudio Maestro Wood / VPI Scoutmaster + Benz Micro Wood L2 > Audio Electronics PH-1 DJH Phono Preamp; Music Hall 25.2 DAC; Denon DVD-5900;Red Wine Audio iMod iPod (Apple Lossless) & ALO VCap dock; Sony SCD-555ES SACD player
Loudspeaker system: Krell KAV250 Preamp>Sunfire Signature II Power amp > B&W Nautilus 800 Signatures + Velodyne FSR-1500/Martin Logan Descent
Tube testers: B&K Dyna-quick 650 & Dyna-Jet 606
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09-21-2007, 12:18 AM
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Thanks. I haven't put mine on low gain yet, and I don't think I will (hassle of screwing the top off again  ). I need somebody to review two Cantates head to head: high gain and low gain  (it'd take too long to remove/replace the shunts to review it on just one Cantate  ).
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09-21-2007, 12:35 AM
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For anyone interested, I may be selling a Cantate in a couple of weeks. In addition to the Cantate, I have ordered a Slee Solo, Headamp GS-1 and HR Max Desktop. After comparing them, I'm going either return or sell off 2 or 3 of them. So PM me if you'd like to be on the list in case I sell.
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But I also believe that the Opera, and my Blue Circle SBH, are at the very top level of performance, based on what I have listened to.
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Speaking of variety, (and to get a better comparative perspective)where would you put your ASLabs MG head in this line up. (Just a short comment would help.)
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09-21-2007, 01:10 AM
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Wow! That was great! I think the price and the DAC on the Move have me leaning more towards it, I'm no where near making any kind of decision yet, but I'm much closer than I was before I read this.
Your review was very helpful!
Thanks.
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