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05-24-2007, 04:52 PM
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Added Yarland P-100 comparison.
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05-24-2007, 09:09 PM
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Thanks TB for your time auditioning the Yarland.You finally broke the ice on this amp.
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05-24-2007, 10:43 PM
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Another nice addition to a terrific review. Great work.
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05-25-2007, 01:43 AM
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Tom, just got the Bada PH-12 today and did a very cursory a/b with the G&W T-2.6F. The Bada was tubed with 1x 6SN7EH gold pin and 2x Raytheon VT-231; the G&W with 2x Russian 6H1N-EB.
The G&W gives a pristine, focused soundstage, with tone, timbre and harmonics tipped toward the lean solid state end of the hybrid spectrum. I did find the Bada to be more open and extended--without losing an uncanny ease and smoothness--in the highs, much more fully developed, tonally rich and textured in the midrange, with full, deep and articulate bass. Overall, I prefer the Bada, although I think the G&W betters it with respect to tightness and punch (but maybe with a leaner front tube, the Bada would win outright in every category).
If the T-2.6F is like a crisp, spicy and vivid (late) autumn day, then the PH-12 is like a fragrant, blossoming and pleasantly moist (early) spring day.
But it's as much a matter of taste as anything else. I really like the 6SN7, and the Bada brings out the best of these tubes. Another one of my favorite amps, the all-tube Darkvoice 336i, also uses the 6SN7 to excellent effect. The 336i is very close, musically, to the Bada, but the commanding, authoritative nature of the PH-12 puts it in an exemplary class of its very own.
POSTSCRIPT: The Bada synergizes extremely well with the Ultrasone Proline 2500 and 750, which was a critical discovery for me. Having heard from several sources that the Bada does not work well with low impedance Grados (32 ohm, I think), I was worried that it would also not work well with the Prolines (40 ohms). With the Bada, the Proline 2500 and 750 sound the best I've heard so far. What a welcome relief and wonderfully pleasant surprise!
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05-25-2007, 03:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pataburd
Tom, just got the Bada PH-12 today and did a very cursory a/b with the G&W T-2.6F. The Bada was tubed with 1x 6SN7EH gold pin and 2x Raytheon VT-231; the G&W with 2x Russian 6H1N-EB.
The G&W gives a pristine, focused soundstage, with tone, timbre and harmonics tipped toward the lean solid state end of the hybrid spectrum. I did find the Bada to be more open and extended--without losing an uncanny ease and smoothness--in the highs, much more fully developed, tonally rich and textured in the midrange, with full, deep and articulate bass. Overall, I prefer the Bada, although I think the G&W betters it with respect to tightness and punch (but maybe with a leaner front tube, the Bada would win outright in every category).
If the T-2.6F is like a crisp, spicy and vivid (late) autumn day, then the PH-12 is like a fragrant, blossoming and pleasantly moist (early) spring day.
But it's as much a matter of taste as anything else. I really like the 6SN7, and the Bada brings out the best of these tubes. Another one of my favorite amps, the all-tube Darkvoice 336i, also uses the 6SN7 to excellent effect. The 336i is very close, musically, to the Bada, but the commanding, authoritative nature of the PH-12 puts it in an exemplary class of its very own.
POSTSCRIPT: The Bada synergizes extremely well with the Ultrasone Proline 2500 and 750, which was a critical discovery for me. Having heard from several sources that the Bada does not work well with low impedance Grados (32 ohm, I think), I was worried that it would also not work well with the Prolines (40 ohms). With the Bada, the Proline 2500 and 750 sound the best I've heard so far. What a welcome relief and wonderfully pleasant surprise!
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Very insightful and valid remarks on the Bada 12 and G&W T2.6F. You are able to recognize the more subtle aspects of sound quality, as does tbonner1.
Your use of the EH gold in front and two Raytheon VT231 T plates with the Bada is one of my favorite combos.
Other good combos with the Bada 12:
One RCA GT (I prefer the black glass) in front and two Raytheon GT or VT231 with T plates (not the flat plates with a wide rib)
One RCA GT (I prefer the black glass) in front and two Sylvania W (not the WGT though)
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05-25-2007, 05:53 PM
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Thanks for the recommendations, Art. I have an RCA 6SN7GT black glass on hand, but no Sylvania 6SN7W. Would you happen to have an extra pair lying around? : )
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05-25-2007, 07:55 PM
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nice review. i got some news about this amp. i heard/read about there will be a new verzion of p-100. bacially the same except thing. different design. i got this couple years ago. still going strong
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05-25-2007, 09:29 PM
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Quote:
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nice review. i got some news about this amp. i heard/read about there will be a new verzion of p-100. bacially the same except thing. different design. i got this couple years ago. still going strong
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I'm curious what type of tubes are you using with the Yarland.The export amp has two EL84 and two 6N3 tube types.Does your home Chinese amp have the same tube types?
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06-11-2007, 06:00 AM
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Quote:
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Thanks for the recommendations, Art. I have an RCA 6SN7GT black glass on hand, but no Sylvania 6SN7W. Would you happen to have an extra pair lying around? : )
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I have about 30 Sylvania W - See my PM to you.
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Past recently owned headphone amps: RSA Raptor EM II, ASL MG Head III OTL, G&W T2.6F tube/Mosfet amp, Woo Audio 2, Woo Audio 3, Xian Sheng 708B amp, Lehmann BC linear, Meixing (Ming Da) MC66AE, Headroom Cosmic, Headroom Micro Desktop, Hafler Preamp, RSA Hornet, Stax (with Stax electostatics). Past recently owned headphones: Sony SA5000, Stax (two different), Sennheiser HD650, AKG340, Grado (HP-2 and SR60), Beyerdynamic DT860, Sony (many), Koss (many).
PORTABLE: iRiver IMP 400 and 350 PCDP, Etymotic 4P, Altec Lansing iM716.
CAR: iRiver IMP 400 and 350 PCDP, BLAudio MK II solid state transformer out amp, Etymotic 4S
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06-13-2007, 10:06 PM
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Make it a STICKY
Just as i feel Skylabs review should be a sticky,,so should this one.
Because of Skylabs reviews,im seriously thinking of getting a Corda lll ,or a Move amp,because of sound/price ratio.
But im still thinking and cant totally decide,but reviews like these sure help! 
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06-30-2007, 09:51 PM
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Dragon
This is a Sticky under the Amplifier reviews section
drarthurwells
The RCA grey glass 6sn7 (drarthurwells refers to them as black glass) make a great combo as a front (input) tube. The Raytheon T plates as the rear power tubes are sharp and dynamic with great bass. Those who find they are lacking bass on the AKG 701 need to try the RCA grey glass as the input tube. It also smooths out the midrange on the 701 which I have found to sound both shrill and lack bass fullness with the wrong tubes. If your do not have the Raytheons (make sure they are the T plate as Art advises) you can try new EH 6sn7, NOS Sylvania GTA short bottles or the stock Shuguangs but make sure the RCA gray glass is in the input position.
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07-01-2007, 03:49 AM
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Going on 8 months now and the Yarland has worked flawlessly.The reviews don't do it justice.Put in some good NOS tubes and sit back and go AAAHHH that's nice,real nice.
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07-06-2007, 05:24 PM
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Please let me know what home headphone amps you would like to see added to this comparison.
Up for consideration is the Singlepower Squarewave, Corda Opera and a Harman Kardon receiver that is said to have a good headphone output.
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07-06-2007, 07:38 PM
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Please let me know what home headphone amps you would like to see added to this comparison.
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How about the Gilmore Lite, GS-1 and GS-X?
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07-06-2007, 07:53 PM
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Darkvoice! Darkvoice! Darkvoice!
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Originally Posted by tbonner1
Please let me know what home headphone amps you would like to see added to this comparison.
Up for consideration is the Singlepower Squarewave, Corda Opera and a Harman Kardon receiver that is said to have a good headphone output.
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How about the Darkvoice 336i? : )
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