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Old 03-11-2007, 01:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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EDIT: I forgot to ask that can you hear that background hiss in Opera with full size low impedance headphones like Grado's?


The amp is dead silent with my Grado GS1000.
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:40 PM   #22 (permalink)
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...has anyone compared the Opera DAC to the Bel Canto? How would the Opera compare to a Stello + Bel Canto in terms of size/weight?
The Opera is about thrice the size and the weight of the Bel Canto alone. I like the Opera's built-in DAC quite a bit better than the Bel Canto.
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Originally Posted by Patu View Post
...can you hear that background hiss in Opera with full size low impedance headphones like Grado's?
Yeah, the Opera is dead silent with my SR-80 (and ER-4P).
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Thanks for the review. I was thinking about buying an Opera with a view to connecting it to my amplifier. You've highlighted a major flaw in my plan! I have a Naim Nait 5i integrated with line level inputs but with an interesting feature which may let the Opera mate well. I've just sent the following to Jan. What do you think?

"Can the volume be adjusted so that the pre-out of the Opera mimics a line level output?

I have a Naim Nait 5i integrated amplifier which has line level inputs...so the pre-amp of the Opera and the pre-amp of the Naim would be daisy-chained. BUT it does have a unity gain function (pasted info below) which may mate well with the Opera: The description suggests the pre-amp of the Naim is bypassed. What do you think?

"AV Integration (Unity Gain)
The Unity Gain function enables an audio-visual processor to be integrated with the NAIT 5i such that its volume control takes over command of signals connected the amplifier's AV input.

Note: The unity gain feature must be used with care. It effectively by-passes the NAIT 5i volume control leaving any signal connected to the unity gain input to be passed to the power amplifier and speakers at full volume. Additionally, if an input is selected which has unity gain enabled, the volume handset functions will be disabled and their indicators will turn off. This will be flagged by the
volume indicator flashing if its handset keys are used.""
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The headphone amp section of the Opera is what makes it really shine. Using a first of its’ kind variable voltage output third channel, the Opera takes headphones to a higher level of sound quality than typical 2-channel amps can offer, closer to what more expensive and complicated balanced amps can produce. The following is a quote from my initial review of the Opera in TTVJ’s Forum:
Have you had the chance to try it out with the HD650 or Grados? I see your quote about how well it drives your W5000 compared to true balanced but was wondering if the same would be true for the HD650. Logically it would, but I always hear about how much balanced improve the HD650, making me think it might not improve so much relative to other cans on the Opera.
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Have you had the chance to try it out with the HD650 or Grados? I see your quote about how well it drives your W5000 compared to true balanced but was wondering if the same would be true for the HD650. Logically it would, but I always hear about how much balanced improve the HD650, making me think it might not improve so much relative to other cans on the Opera.
With the Aria (prototype), I had a slight or even clear preference for the K 701 over the HD 650. Now, with the Opera, I like the HD 650 as much as I like the K 701. Both sound incredibly good with it, and I haven't heard the HD 650 sound better before: There's so much clarity and detail through the Opera. The good thing is: It doesn't tend to be unforgiving with mediocre recordings nonetheless.
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I've gotten a pretty good idea of the Opera vs. my Stello amp. But has anyone compared the Opera DAC to the Bel Canto? How would the Opera compare to a Stello + Bel Canto in terms of size/weight?
In my experience with the DAC2, I preferred the Benchmark DAC1 to it. Therefore I'd agree with Jazz in stating the Opera's DAC is at least a bit better sounding. I think sizewize you might be at about a draw, since the Opera isn't small, but it might have a slight edge on total weight. Considering that it comes with a form-fitted box, it should be pretty easy to transport.


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I'd like to know what are the differences in sound quality when you directly compare Opera DAC + amp and DA100 + HP100 combos. You described them individually in your review but I'd like to know the basics like which one has wider/deeper soundstage, warmer sound, more detailed sound, neutrality etc.
EDIT: I forgot to ask that can you hear that background hiss in Opera with full size low impedance headphones like Grado's?
I'd give the Opera the edge for soundstaging (and perhaps detail, if you take the larger soundstage to be indicative of more resolved high-end detail). Neutrality vs. warmth is a bit tricky because of the HP100's filters. The warmest sound is the HP100 w/filter B. The most neutral is the Opera. I generally found the Opera to be a more involving and enjoyable listen. Again these are virtually completely due to the differences in the headphone amps, as changing from the DA100 to the Opera's DAC made very little difference.

I could only hear the hiss with my UE IEM's. Even the W5000 which is more voltage sensitive than Grados did not show any hiss.


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Have you had the chance to try it out with the HD650 or Grados?
I've only heard the Opera with the headphones I own, so no Grados or Senns. Sorry!
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... so no Grados or Senns.
Heh, and I consider that a good thing.
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very impressive review indeed, also interesting ranking, can’t believe Corda Opera win the battle.
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Thanks for the comments on the Opera vs. Bel Canto.

One thing I disagree with is your assessment that the Stello HP100 gives no hiss. In my system at least, it doesn't hiss with full-size cans (e.g. Ultrasone, Grado, Beyer), but there is a very noticeable hiss on my Sensaphonics IEMs when no music is playing.

One possible cause is that I don't have a power conditioner or anything like that. My Stello is simply plugged into the same power strip where I plug in my computer, etc. Maybe that is the cause of the hiss?
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