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Old 06-12-2007, 10:09 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Guys,

Based on your experience, how would you compare reasonably modded 708B (new NOS tubes, signal wiring, ALPS stereo pot, Input/Output Resistors and new inter-stage coupling and hp output caps) to let say ….

Darkvoice 336i
Little Dot 2++ (or any other variations of Little Dot)
Cayin HA-1A (I know, this is completely unfair considering the price difference)
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:54 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Senad View Post
Guys,

Based on your experience, how would you compare reasonably modded 708B (new NOS tubes, signal wiring, ALPS stereo pot, Input/Output Resistors and new inter-stage coupling and hp output caps) to let say ….

Darkvoice 336i
Little Dot 2++ (or any other variations of Little Dot)
Cayin HA-1A (I know, this is completely unfair considering the price difference)
Unfortunately my 708B is the only amp that I have experience with so I can't give any useful comments. However, in a few weeks I'm planing on loaning my modded amp to a well-known head-fier to be included in his massive amp review. That will provide you with the info that you seek.
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Old 06-20-2007, 01:25 AM   #83 (permalink)
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That is great. I am looking forward to the review. I plunged in myself since I posted the question and ordered one for myself. It should be here in another week. I am also about to order parts for the majority of the mods and I have couple of upgrade tube sets on the way (NIB JAN 5670W, Amperex A-Frame 6DJ8, and 6N3P-EB).

Where did you get your knob for ALPS? I know that the primary concern is the sound quality, but the one from Radio Shack that everybody used is just plain butt ugly! The original knob looks rather decent, how come nobody tried to reuse is (I am sure it would require some retooling but still)?

Could someone tell me what is the diameter of the original knob? I found a very nice and reasonably inexpensive knob (KILO International JD90) but I am not sure if it is big enough. Shaft socket seems to be a good match:
http://www.kilointernational.com/kno...jd_series.html
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I'm also looking forward to seeing how it compares to some of the other amps now. I got that knob from Rat-Shack too, PN: 274-407. The original knob is made out of plastic and felt pretty cheap. It was made for a splined shaft and the ALPS I got had a smooth shaft so I couldn't use it. I like the contrast of a black knob against brushed aluminum much better anyways. I threw that vol knob away so I don't know how big it is, but the circular pocket on the front panel is around 1.302" (~33mm) diameter on my amp for reference, so that JD90 would be too small to fill it up fully.
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Old 06-20-2007, 07:20 PM   #85 (permalink)
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I finally found a source for a good size knob. It is somewhat on the expensive side ($12 + $5 S&H) but reasonable considering they are machined out of solid chunk of aluminum and great looking. The diameter is 1.4" (36.2mm) what should be a good fit (slightly bigger than the original knob):

http://www.goldpt.com/prices.html

Btw, they also make/sell very impressive stepped pots.
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:23 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Those are some nice looking knobs. It's a shame the K1.4 is a bit too big and the K1.1 is a bit too small. I looked around some and I only found a few 30mm aluminum knobs, but no 33mm ones. The best fit would be the KB-BE-32 from VT4C Studio, but it's made out of wood though. Man if I had a metal lathe here I'd just make you a custom one.
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Why do you think that a larger knob is a problem? I understand that the knob would not fit inside the original recess, but if you mount it so it just slightly clears the flat surface of the enclosure, it would look good. Am I missing something?
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:18 AM   #88 (permalink)
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Nah, I didn't mean it'd be a problem going with the larger knob, since it'll completely cover up the pocket anyways as you said. I just meant that it's a shame you can't get one the exact size that the pocket was milled out for.
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I didn't read through all of the mod but I hope the output caps were increased in size as the knee of the .22 would hold down the bass and there is no need for 1K resistors on the input but 200 to 400 ohm would work fine. The higher input resistor will curtail the highs some. I would use Riken Ohm as much as the tants. I have used many tants from the better tants (before they were no longer made in Japan and were nonmagnetic) to the later and not as good Audio Note tants and the Riken hold their own just fine if not better.
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What about those power supply filter caps? Are they Nippon Chemi-con KMG? Do you think changing them to Panasonic TSHA would yield better results?
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