Just Amazing

[Dept_of_Alchemy]

In this thread we have reviewed a framework for characterizing the issues in identifying an approximate model for the contxtualization of future possible exploratory directions that infer the challenges related to verifying the need for further investigation of bit-perfectness in digital-analogue converters.

[fordgtlover]

Where's Patrick82 when you need him to step in?

[LawnGnome]

I would try to give him a break since english might not be his first language. BUT his second and third posts here, and all he does is insult people?

I think he is just dumb.

[fordgtlover]

^

I would agree that people who have languages other than English as their native one deserve some slack. But, this guy even after being asked whether he is a non-native English speaker just insulted everyone. Even those people who tried to extract meaning from the words were insulted for their efforts.

In my experience at headf-fi, most people will try to understand what some one is trying to say. Here is a case whereby someone joins up and makes an incoherent post and then offends those who are trying to help him.

To the OP.
Slow down and make simply points and stop calling people stupid and dumb because they don't understand what you have posted. It is not your point that we don't understand, it is your words - they are incoherent. Your words don't make sense to us.

[jonta_dj]

My first language is Swedish and I don't understand this:
"I would agree that people who have languages other than English as their native one deserve some slack".

I wonder if the original posters mother tongue is english. I might be something else, hence it would be a shame to laugh at him...

ps.
I did not understand very much of what he said (yes, I can try to guess what he's saying) but am glad most other posters don't understand either...

[jonnywolfet]

erm.
i think he's talking about diminishing returns, snake oil, placebo, pretty enclosures and the fact that recording studios use thousands of meters of non-audiophile cable. (broadly speaking, or not, i couldnt really tell).

yes, being into audio requires common sense.
and please, lets be civil.

[Computerpro3]

Originally Posted by cdog46

If what I said is over your head-let me dumb it dumb it down so you'll have a chance of understanding what I was saying. This was my main point There is no perfect sound reproduction system. That's a really a hard concept to get your hands around.

An A to D convertor does just what it says. Takes an analog signal samples it, and digitizes it. Their are many ways of smoothing the sound curve out-Gaussian, Cheachev filtering which is all over my head. But seeing you have so much fun with my post I'll have mine.
What that last paragraph means is that there are more ways than one to digitize an analog signal. So that why its an art.e to expound-I will.

And if you have never read Stereophile-some readers a few years back believed Armour All sprayed on CD's yielded better sound. Get it? what my third paragraph was about? If not I can expound on this too.

I did not mean to make it so complicated for the more stupid people who read this post. So if my limited explanations made no sense to the stupid people who were having their jollies with my post- you're actually more stupid and ignorant then you would ever be able to comprehend.

Kind of like the the 18 bit processing-too high a BER.

So is this a new language you've developed in your studies, or are you just too unintelligent to speak properly?

[wower]

I don't have anything witty to add like other posters but wish to tell cdog46, thx for the amazing thread!

[Morph201]

Yes, thank you! I'm STILL AMAZED!

[EnOYiN]

So in an attempt to clear this thread up for a bit, I will try to translate the first post so we can all read it. Not just the geniuses among us, but the normal people as well.

Originally Posted by cdog46

I was briefly reading some of the responses as to which computer (mac v. pc) makes for a better sound processing source.

This is a small prologue. This is what he was doing when it suddenly struck him.

Originally Posted by cdog46

As one who has been in electronics as a job and audioholic

A little background about the poster. He is trying to communicate that he does know what he is talking about.

Originally Posted by cdog46

it is certain that all electronics and the associated transducers are not created equal. Any good D/A designer will tell you just designing that part it is more an art than a science. (For really really good ones) What's this bit perfect myth hocus pocus.

Since transducers are different every time you can't apply science to them. Science has to be exact. Transducers are different so there is no real science in converting a signal from digital to analogue. Any really good designer will tell you the same thing.

Originally Posted by cdog46

So...... what's my point?

Just a small rhetorical question. Don't worry about it. You won't have to answer.

Originally Posted by cdog46

Only that arguing what's the ne plus ultra borders on the myth, superstition, and religion you read in mags like Sterophile.

He is trying to tell you guys that all high-end sources, DACs mainly, are not the fruit of science. There are no differences in DACs because you can't prove it. If one DAC is better than the other it's just because you think it is because it's more expensive.

Stereophile writes about these high-end DACs and they are trying to convince every one that they should buy these DACs. You shouldn't though, because there is no difference. It's all superstition.

Originally Posted by cdog46

You'd be better off, in some cases-talking religion or politics which in essence you are.

You might as well talk about religion, because that makes as much sense as audio.

Note that these are not my words. I am just trying to make clear what I think he is trying to say.

A summary of this post would be something like this: It doesn't matter what computer I will pick because people hardly use any science when it comes to designing DACs.

Let's take it from here.