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Old 06-02-2008, 08:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by HighLife View Post
i mean, i can see how the amp might help you a bit by filling up the sound a bit..however its garbage in garbage out..your source is what sounds bad, amping that badness = amped badness.

We need crappyjones here to make a much better equation to show you =)
My laptops soundcard sucks really bad...very underpowered.
I went to buy Creative USB Soundcards but they didnt let me listen before buying....so i ditched the plan.

Finally this is what helped me...

The Source is all 320 kbps (VBR).

What Soundcard do u use?
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I am not telling u to use Guitar Amps for headphones .

This is Computer audio section ..

Maybe u r in the wrong section?


Here we discuss computer audio...and most computer users have a Table on which they place their comps.
GUITAR AMPS?! Did you just reduce the whole amp following on head-fi to GUITAR AMPS?!
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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What Soundcard do u use?

in my home PC im using a Xfi Xtrememusic...

In my Laptop im using a Go-Vibe Mini-USB DAC. My last laptop had nasty AC97 sound...which was awful amped or not...the usb DAC route completely destroys the on board sound.

My new laptop has the realtek HD sound, which again is barely decent for music, at least to my ears.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i think you don't speak about the same sound...
Quality is personal and relative.
Everyone can find it's own value.
If you are happy with your system, there are no problem at all.
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Nocturnal310 View Post
How much time did u waste on the reply?

Coz it took me much less to create the Original post.
I don't consider my repeated attempts to educate you to be time wasted. And if you want people to spend less time on replies then you spend on the original post, then you have an odd sense of priority.

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the Issue was with MY laptop..and solved it.
The sound was too low and at high levels only distorted...

I didnt wanna spend on Soundcard without even hearing them..

even the 32 Ohm HD205's sounded better on my iPod than my laptop.

Using the method above i resolved my issue and am enjoying music.

Whereas YOU.... u wasted your energy on Bashing the thread.
But I can has thinked 32 ohm headphones has doesnt needz amp?

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P.S: This thread must be indexed in google already...so people with poor laptop soundcard must be finding it useful.
Somewhat less useful than the hundreds of other indexed threads with more cohesive information I should wager.

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I bet they ll be more concerned about their problem than Yours.
I don't have a problem. So I should imagine that's true.
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Originally Posted by Nocturnal310 View Post
Maybe u r in the wrong section?
I don't visit sections. I click "new posts" on top and it shows me all of the new posts in all threads, under all sections since the last time I visited.

and who said anything about guitar amps?
You've lost me with your intellect, and superb reading skills.

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I am not telling u to use Guitar Amps for headphones .

This is Computer audio section ..
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A 25-30$ TBAAM (Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Micro) can give you much more bang for buck compared to running your headphones off the headphone out of a cheap portable speaker rig connected to the already inferior headphone out on your laptop. It doesnt matter if you are playing 320kbps, you can write it in whatever font you want, the fact is, you yourself agreed that your laptop soundcard sounds horrible, connecting that to what is most probably a cheap headphone out on a cheap speaker is not going to do squat other than simply increase the volume(and this is even funnier, the speakers are cheap cos they didnt want to spend much time or money on the primary function of this device which is the speaker, and you recommend using the headphone out on this)

This is really not the solution if you want to improve sound quality, however cheap it might be, there are simply better options at a similar price that offer significantly better performance which is why this thread is misleading right from the beginning.

To make things worse you throw out random audiophile terms for such a rig, which is insulting and belittling the whole website centered around dedicated components and setups for headphones, and you come back and justify your actions as well. Your arguments since the first post have only worsened your position by making an analogy with guitar amps that makes no sense whatsoever.

I know you had good intentions when you started this thread, and you probably did see a difference which is why you got excited about it and wrote about it in the first place. But in the process there is a lot of misinformation and glorification of possibly one of the worst solutions for computer audio.

You need to take it easy with using random terms you see on the website without fully understanding what its all about, try and read more, there is a lot of information on this site, don't try to rush it. Take time, you will definitely appreciate it more as time goes by and you will learn more.

There is a reason there is a such a dedicated following for seperate parts and components of a headphone rig.
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A 25-30$ TBAAM (Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Micro) can give you much more bang for buck compared to running your headphones off the headphone out of a cheap portable speaker rig connected to the already inferior headphone out on your laptop. It doesnt matter if you are playing 320kbps, you can write it in whatever font you want, the fact is, you yourself agreed that your laptop soundcard sounds horrible, connecting that to what is most probably a cheap headphone out on a cheap speaker is not going to do squat other than simply increase the volume(and this is even funnier, the speakers are cheap cos they didnt want to spend much time or money on the primary function of this device which is the speaker, and you recommend using the headphone out on this)

This is really not the solution if you want to improve sound quality, however cheap it might be, there are simply better options at a similar price that offer significantly better performance which is why this thread is misleading right from the beginning.

To make things worse you throw out random audiophile terms for such a rig, which is insulting and belittling the whole website centered around dedicated components and setups for headphones, and you come back and justify your actions as well. Your arguments since the first post have only worsened your position by making an analogy with guitar amps that makes no sense whatsoever.

I know you had good intentions when you started this thread, and you probably did see a difference which is why you got excited about it and wrote about it in the first place. But in the process there is a lot of misinformation and glorification of possibly one of the worst solutions for computer audio.

You need to take it easy with using random terms you see on the website without fully understanding what its all about, try and read more, there is a lot of information on this site, don't try to rush it. Take time, you will definitely appreciate it more as time goes by and you will learn more.

There is a reason there is a such a dedicated following for seperate parts and components of a headphone rig.
Creative X-Mod is a Fraud then...the company should be sued to bankruptcy ..
Because they claim to improve the sound quality of Mp3 which is according to you not possible because the Source (laptop and song format) itself is poor.


Rite?


Secondly,
i am not Sorry about my Wallet atleast...all i did was to share my experience ..and u feel cheated because how can i improve the audio without spending so much?

I am not hearing the purest sound like u...but i am hearing MUCH BETTER..and why would i lie?



Guitar Amps? That was just to give extreme contrast to make my point.
(the guy said i was recommending External Amps to Headphone amps)


Finally, this is NOT a recommended solution but an alternative when u just want to hear better without opening your wallet.
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Creative X-Mod is a Fraud then...the company should be sued to bankruptcy ..
Because they claim to improve the sound quality of Mp3 which is according to you not possible because the Source (laptop and song format) itself is poor.
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I am not hearing the purest sound like u...but i am hearing MUCH BETTER..and why would i lie?
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Guitar Amps? That was just to give extreme contrast to make my point.
(the guy said i was recommending External Amps to Headphone amps)
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Finally, this is NOT a recommended solution but an alternative when u just want to hear better without opening your wallet.
1. Xmods connect to USB ports and bypass your crappy laptop sound. Research please.

2. How did you get guitar amps from external amps? And how did you go to guitar amps instead of the obvious thing the OP was talking about..headphone amps. When I read that statement from that poster, I and other readers of this thread knew he was talking about the thing that head-fi covers extensively. Headphone amps..sorry but, kind of "duh."

3. I think we don't have a problem with you bringing up such possibilities in sound "transmittance" but we have a problem with you ignoring the information given to you in other instances. We don't think you are lying...we just think you are misinformed and you are passing on misinformation.
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Because they claim to improve the sound quality of Mp3 which is according to you not possible because the Source (laptop and song format) itself is poor.
Dude you seriously do have some sort of learning disorder. The sound quality you get from the mp3 file is determined by the soundcard, not what brand of laptop you use, or if its green in color. I specifically said you mentioned that your sound card is useless. Thats it.

There was never an argument saying mp3 sound quality cannot be improved because of the laptop and the format. Its what you use to convert the digital format into analog audio that determines what you hear. Thats the whole point of the DAC, and thats why there are 100's of USB DAC's being sold because the soundcards that come built in with laptops are usually cheap and crappy. You can use all the software effects you want, but if you are still using a cheap @$$ sound card on your laptop, its gonna sound crap.

Also the argument is not about money at all. Again I clearly mentioned that for the same budget of 20-30$, there are much better solutions to better sound from a laptop, compared to going and buying cheap logitech speakers and using them to connect headphones.

X-mod is not meant to be an amp, its a USB device that uses some of creatives proprietary DSP's to give, atleast according to their ears, an improvement in sound. Yes it does have a line-in but this is still a completely invalid argument for this whole thread.

It is completely irrelevant if the X-mod is crappy, there are gazillion products that claim to do glorious things but completely fail to do so, thats marketting, there is a whole company dedicated to selling products purely based on marketting (looking at u Bose). Picking on those has nothing to do with the context of this thread.
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