Support Head-Fi.org by starting all of your Amazon.com shopping by clicking here.
____________________________________________________________________
Today's Featured Head-Fi Blog:  Jude's Blog
____________________________________________________________________
Please help support Head-Fi by becoming a Contributing Member  CLICK HERE

-- Contributing Members, thank you for your generous support! --
Head-Fi Is Sponsored By:
Register FAQ Blogs Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Today's Posts Search
 

Head-Fi's Sponsors
(Premier Sponsors bolded)

Featured

2008 International
Head-Fi Meet
(Can Jam '08)
Impressions,
Reviews, Photos


Can Jam '08 graphic
courtesy of Edwood

Click on the links below
for Can Jam '08 photos,
impressions and reviews:


NightWoundsTime
lan
agile_one
wavoman
crappyjones123
Luke G
bperboy
jimaxp

 


Can Jam '08 Logo
T-Shirts For Sale


Head-Fi Blogs
and Facebook

Check out Head-Fi's new
Blogs section.

Featured Head-Fi Blogs:

Jude's "Take My Word"

 From Japan - by Sasaki

 LFF's Blog

(
Start your own Blog!)

Attention
Facebook Users



Join the official
Head-Fi.org
Facebook Group


Head-Fi's Sponsors
(Premier Sponsors bolded)

Featured


Go Back   Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio > Equipment Forums > Computer Audio

Computer Audio Discussion of computers as source components, sound cards, USB DACs, media servers, etc.

Meier Audio CORDA HEADSIX & The Most Recent Sponsored Threads

Celebrating 6 years of Head-Fi, Meier Audio introduces the Limited Edition HEADSIX (portable headphone amp) Head-Fi Support Sales Action




 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-14-2008, 11:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Head-Fi'er
 
Hadakan's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Czech Republic
Posts: 21

IM Contacts
Send a message via ICQ to Hadakan Send a message via AIM to Hadakan
Question foobar2000 playback settings and DSPs

How do you have your playback set up in foobar? What DSPs do you use, how and in what order? What do you consider most significant settings and DSPs? Is there something like optimal/best setting?

My settings:
volume 0.00db
Replaygain
Source: album
Processing: apply gain
(does this affect the sound in any way or is it just a manipulation of volume and nothing else?)
DSPs
Skip silence
Advanced limiter
(this interests me most, do you use that limiter? can it do "bad" things to the sound?)
Output
ASIO 2.0 - ProDigi HD2
__________________
"Sick liaisons raised this monumental mark,
the sun sets forever over Blackwater park."

FLAC > foobar2000 0.9.5.2 > ASIO 2.0 > Audiotrak Prodigy HD2 (2xOPA2134 + OPA2604) > Planet Waves 1/8" M to 1/4" F > Grado SR225
Team Audiotrak
Team Grado
Team Balanced Tinnitus
Money loss for audio gain: $432,04
Hadakan is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2008, 11:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
Head-Fi'er

Profile
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 84
Default

volume - various
Replaygain
Source: album
Processing: apply gain

DSPs
Equalizer
Advanced limiter - no longer. One day I noticed some kind of clipping on bass when activated. I can't explain why, I even don't get it. Since then turned off.

Output
ASIO 2.0 - EMU 0202 USB
eraser_svk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2008, 01:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
100+ Head-Fi'er

Profile
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 223

IM Contacts
Send a message via AIM to sunseeker888
Default

Generally, I avoid all DSP limiting and whatnot, for the reasons mentioned above. Only limiter I'd touch with a ten foot pool would be an analog one.
__________________
CURRENT STASH! : SR325I, HD555, K240, ProJect Headbox MKII, LD2++, LD MKII, SCD-CE595, MacBook Pro, iMic, Pro-Ject Debut III. Money spent since joining Head-fi: Just under a grand
sunseeker888 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2008, 02:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
100+ Head-Fi'er
 
basman's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHIL
Posts: 411
Default

Volume: 0db
Source: Album
Processing: Apply Again
DSP:
1. Equalizer
2. Advance Limiter

Foobar-Asio-DA100-HP100
__________________
Portable Rig: Sony HD5-> UE mini to mini > RSA Hornet->UE TripleFi 10
Desktop Rig: HP DV2000-> *Stello DA100 -> *Stello HP100 ->Silver Dragon > Sennheisser HD650/Grado RS1/MS2i *Audio Plus Interconnects & Optical Cable
Home Rig: Rotel RCD-1072->RC-1070->RB-1070-> EPOS M12i (soon) / Velodyne SPL1200R
basman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2008, 02:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
100+ Head-Fi'er
 
scott_d_m's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 402
Default

Replay gain
Source->album
Processing->none
Preamp->0.0db
DSP->eq
__________________
scott_d_m is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2008, 12:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
Andrew_WOT's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: California
Posts: 3,312
Default

You better off by turning all these replay gains, dsps off.
Foobar2000 for Windows - Setup Guide - Benchmark
I only have Advanced Limiter there to prevent clipping.
Andrew_WOT is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2008, 01:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
100+ Head-Fi'er
 
Apocalypsee's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kota Damansara, Malaysia
Posts: 347
Default

Volume - 0.00dB

ReplayGain:
Source Mode - none
Processing - none

DSP:
none

Output:
Creative ASIO
Apocalypsee is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2008, 03:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
infinitesymphony's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,409
Default

0 dB, ReplayGain disabled, DSPs disabled, Kernel Streaming output.

Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT
I only have Advanced Limiter there to prevent clipping.
To prevent clipping where? Couldn't you adjust one of the volume controls (Foobar, Windows, etc.)?
__________________
Team Value-Fi.
infinitesymphony is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2008, 03:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
Andrew_WOT's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: California
Posts: 3,312
Default

Originally Posted by infinitesymphony View Post
0 dB, ReplayGain disabled, DSPs disabled, Kernel Streaming output.


To prevent clipping where? Couldn't you adjust one of the volume controls (Foobar, Windows, etc.)?
Controlling volume in a digital domain is a big NO. Read this link Digital volume controls - Benchmark
And why Advanced Limiter is better than -6db limiter
A complete guide to Foobar 2000 - TechSpot
Foobar2000 Manual - DSP

Last edited by Andrew_WOT; 06-16-2008 at 03:26 AM.
Andrew_WOT is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2008, 03:37 AM   #10 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
infinitesymphony's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,409
Default

I'm familiar with how digital volume controls work, but my guess is that a free software limiter plug-in is no better in terms of transparency. Benchmark recommend that all DSP plug-ins be turned off. They also say, "The volume control in Foobar2000 is of sufficient quality that it will not cause noticeable sonic degradation. However, depending on several factors, a digital gain reduction may increase the noise floor of your playback system." From what I remember in the DAC1 USB thread, the Windows master volume slider will effect the sound quality the least.

What I don't understand is, why would you need to limit clipping within the playback program when you can eliminate it at the next step in the chain (usually Windows mixer)?

Edit: Hmm... After reading a bit more, I might be wrong about Windows mixer. The unfortunate part about Benchmark's articles is that it's not clear if they are meant to apply for all systems, or if they are specific to achieving bit-perfect digital output.
__________________
Team Value-Fi.

Last edited by infinitesymphony; 06-16-2008 at 03:46 AM.
infinitesymphony is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 Head-Fi.org
All times are GMT. The time now is 07:24 AM.