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Old 06-16-2008, 04:03 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Volume: Depends


Replaygain:

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Processing: Apply gain & prevent clipping according to peak.

PreAmp: with RG info: 1.5 dB


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Old 06-16-2008, 05:06 AM   #12 (permalink)
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My understanding is that in difference from volume control that attenuates everything, losing some bits with data, advanced limiter just lowers clipping inducing spike leaving everything else alone.
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
And why Advanced Limiter is better than -6db limiter
A complete guide to Foobar 2000 - TechSpot
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Hmm, actually Foobar2000 Manual - DSP says "Hard -6dB limiter : Will do the same as the advanced limiter but it is limited to a -6dB cut. Preferred over the advanced limiter."

One more thing, I use ASIO 2.0 and that makes the Output Data Format greyed out. Anybody got any idea as to why? The only option I can change inside "Output Format / Post processing" is check "Dither (slow)". I don't even know what is Dither supposed to do, but I think it doesn't do anything anyway, when playing through ASIO.
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Hmm, actually Foobar2000 Manual - DSP says "Hard -6dB limiter : Will do the same as the advanced limiter but it is limited to a -6dB cut. Preferred over the advanced limiter."
Actually not, Advanced Limiter is a preffered way of limiting clipping signal.
limiters avalible in foobar. - Hydrogenaudio Forums
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Volume: 0.00 dB always

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Not sure about these. I've never touched these settings though.

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Volume: 0.00 dB always

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Not sure about these. I've never touched these settings though.

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I use the same setting.
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Actually not, Advanced Limiter is a preffered way of limiting clipping signal.
limiters avalible in foobar. - Hydrogenaudio Forums
Well, I only cited one of the sources you posted that contradicted, what you said. However, thanks for the link about limiters.
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For all of the complaining about the loudness war, it is interesting that people include limiters on their DSP chain. They either do nothing, or apply a form dynamic compression to the signal, as appropriate. If there is a clipped signal (which there really should not be with lossless files unless you are using other DSPs), I'd think that lowering the overall volume slightly would be the more audiophile-style approach to dealing with it. If you have a nice 24 bit soundcard, one might think that you could lower the volume quite a bit and the noise of the original recording (being only 16 bit at best when mastered to CD) should still be audible above the potential noise floor of your system.
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Foobar does indeed sound better with DSP's such as ReSampler.

Anyone else tried Resampler?
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Foobar does indeed sound better with DSP's such as ReSampler.

Anyone else tried Resampler?
I do not resample any of my music.

This thread has convinced me not to.
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