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Old 06-23-2008, 03:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I am about to order myself a MAC. One thing I will miss is Foobar as I understand that it is Windows only. I currently, use the equaliser and the convolver in Foobar.

Are there add-ins for iTunes that add DSP equivalents to an equaliser, convolver and resampler? In paricular I use the .WAV files that are used to simulate value amps.

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You have other options besides iTunes, but you should know it's much more extensible in OS X. It may not be Foobar but check out Dougs Applescripts, Audio Highjack Pro and Canz3D.
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I've been using Macs for 9 years, haven't heard of such add-ons. iTunes is a rather "focused" program, let's put it this way, just like iPhoto. That is convenient for syncing with iPod, .Mac, etc., but also puts some limitations.

But you know there are now at least to very good virtual environments to run Windows (and/or Linux) on your OS X desktop, right?.. One is called Parallels, forgot the other one. You can run Foobar there.
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The problem with running foobar in a VM on parallels or VMware Fusion is that those emulate a soundblaster pci card for audio. You won't be able to do any ASIO as far as I know, and overall sound quality will not be great.

That said, iTunes on the Mac will supposedly do bit-perfect playback out of the box, which is nice. iTunes on the mac is, as blessingx said, way more extensible than the windows version, so you can probably find stuff you want for it.
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Thnaks guys, this looks promising.
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If you've just ordered a mac, it's likely one of the new Intel ones, which allows you to just install windows with Bootcamp (my MBP has been running Vista almost constantly, due to OSX's seeming inability to play back multiple videos in a row without messing up the aspect ratio.).
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If you've just ordered a mac, it's likely one of the new Intel ones, which allows you to just install windows with Bootcamp (my MBP has been running Vista almost constantly, due to OSX's seeming inability to play back multiple videos in a row without messing up the aspect ratio.).
interesting... ive never had anything wrong with that.

ive had vista / xp installed bootcamp on my mac, after a week, i ditched them... also tried parallels and such, but nothing can touch the smooth performance of the osx. (esp when all most my windows have similar alternatives in mac)
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I use windows xp with boot camp to run business software. You can use any windows program you want this way, but you are giving away the stability of OSX if you do it.
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As blessingx mentions, Audio HiJack Pro can intercept audio signals from any program. From there you can insert any AU (audio unit) or VST plugins.

This is how I listen through iTunes with Canz for crossfeed.

I do get some popping when the CPU is under heavy load but I'm hoping The Predator with its usb DAC will help out. The intel Macs have really bad audio. PowerPC Macs were so much better in this regard.
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Hi all,

I am about to order myself a MAC. One thing I will miss is Foobar as I understand that it is Windows only. I currently, use the equaliser and the convolver in Foobar.

Are there add-ins for iTunes that add DSP equivalents to an equaliser, convolver and resampler? In paricular I use the .WAV files that are used to simulate value amps.

Many thanks!

While iTunes generally produces an excellent sound, IMO, absolutely no other media player produces a sound as good as the sound produced by Foobar2000, IMO. Foobar2000 also has more potential in various ways than does any other player, IMO (unless you are really into all the "bells and whistles" of some other players which have nothing to do with their sound). In addition to this, Foobar2000 has an 18-band graphic equalizer. How many other computer media players have an 18-band graphic equalizer? None, that are known to me. Also, there is an excellent resampler that is part of Foobar2000. If it wasn't possible to use Foobar2000 with Mac, I would never use a Mac. Thankfully, there are "bridge" programs you can run on a Mac that will permit you to use Windows based programs.
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