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05-29-2009, 07:52 PM
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Best Lossy audio codec ? wma or ogg
Which one is better ?
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05-29-2009, 08:15 PM
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I actually read somewhere that ogg is supposed to be better than mp3 because it takes less space for the same quality ...or something...
but i don't know about wma. ogg is pretty stable though, and i heard of a lot of people starting to use it.
you can read more on oggvorbis if you want, just google it.
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05-29-2009, 08:20 PM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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I've tested MP3 & OGG, prefer latter. Using 192kps OGG on portable system, if that were MP3 I'd just delete them as sound quality is still pretty bad.
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05-29-2009, 09:52 PM
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if you're asking about sound quality, i would rate musepack (mpc) 1st and ogg 2nd.
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05-29-2009, 10:04 PM
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Depends what you mean with "best".
If software/hardware support are taken into consideration then MP3 win hands down. For pure sound quality then probably close call between AAC, Ogg Vorbis and MusePack.
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05-29-2009, 10:58 PM
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i ripped all of my cd's to ogg and wav and to my ear there is absolutely NO difference
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05-30-2009, 12:00 AM
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the latest version of nero aac is awesome! use vbr preset .65(around 250kbps) and youre practically set. I cant hear the difference between this and lossless so far and even 320 mp3s are a little soft for me compared to lossless.
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05-30-2009, 12:29 AM
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Quote:
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the latest version of nero aac is awesome! use vbr preset .65(around 250kbps) and youre practically set. I cant hear the difference between this and lossless so far and even 320 mp3s are a little soft for me compared to lossless.
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Indeed.. I'm at 160 kbps AAC vbr and can't hear the difference.
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05-30-2009, 01:14 AM
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None will ever be CD quality, though I thought Ogg q6 was CD quality for a long time before getting better equipment. And still, 80% of the time, the differences are near-inaudible.
Musepack is also extremely good, but tends to have worse player support than Ogg.
wma - I refuse to even look into this, as it's closed-source and - I'm guessing - not Linux friendly at all. 
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05-30-2009, 09:47 AM
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Oh hey, something i sort of know about.
You can get an unofficial oggenc from HAF (google) that sounds ~~lossless at about 160kbps.
^ currently the best available.
Then you have mp3 blade (blade enc)...
then you have normal ogg...
then you have wma...
then you have standard mp3 [lameenc] (about 216 kbps).
You'll probably get the most support from a LAME mp3...
enjoy.
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05-30-2009, 04:29 PM
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Thanks for the answers,
I ripped my flac albums to ogg quality 9
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05-30-2009, 04:32 PM
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I also think AAC is the best lossy codec available atm
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05-30-2009, 06:56 PM
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^ I stick to AAC as well, for those few lossy files I need.
Since its compatible with all the software/hardware I use, and provide pretty good sound quality. Aka -> "Best" (for my use).
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05-30-2009, 07:11 PM
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was gonna say MPC as well, at least -insane or -braindead (which i believe is -7 and -8) but that was quite a while ago, before i made the switch to lossless.
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05-30-2009, 07:25 PM
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Unfortunately my cowon s9 does not support AAC 
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