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07-04-2009, 12:27 AM
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Audio out?
I have a Dell Insprion 1420 and I need to find a device that gives audio out. I know there are external sound cards such as usb or express card. Where can I find one?? I want to hook up my notebook to an amp to power my headphones. Pretty much the audio out plug from the notebook to the L&R on the amp.
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07-04-2009, 12:33 AM
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Well if you want better sound quality, you will not be using the audio out from your notebook which uses an inferior Digital-to-Analog (DAC) converter. You will probably want to use a quality external USB DAC that can be had for as low as $100 and will still give you good quality and transparency. I don't know what your budget is but you can look through this list as a starting point:
All the DACs money can buy, pt. 2
I think the EMU 0202, Super Pro 707 and Musiland SVDAC06 (ebay) are the best out there for the $100-130 price range if that's what you are looking for.
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07-04-2009, 12:39 AM
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I can just hook those up via usb from my notebook to my amp?
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07-04-2009, 12:41 AM
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Quote:
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I can just hook those up via usb from my notebook to my amp?
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Yep. It will look like this:
Notebook USB => USB capable DAC => Amp
All those I listed are quality USB capable DACs.
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07-04-2009, 12:44 AM
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For the DAC am I using the audio out to the amps in?
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07-04-2009, 01:42 AM
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Quote:
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For the DAC am I using the audio out to the amps in?
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Yes it will either have a line out or pre-amp out, both of which you can connect to your amp set-up. Look at the pictures & descriptions. All of the ones I mentioned except the E-MU have stereo RCA out.
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07-04-2009, 02:27 AM
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The Fubar II is also excellent. So it doesn't have 24/96. Who cares. It's still extremely good.
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07-04-2009, 06:37 AM
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I ended up picking up a M-Audio Fast Track USB, the local shop had one in stock so I thought I would give it a try.
For those headfiers that are familiar to this, there are three knobs on this unit, a mic, mix and output. My question is why do I need to turn up the mix knob and output? Is there a DAC where I don't have to adjust noise volume? Such as a unit with just the USB port and two RCA cables?
On the other hand, my receiver that I am using for my setup is not very powerful, I am thinking of picking up a little dot but which power level will I need to power grado's? I have 80i's right now but I plan to pick up some higher level ones in the future, HD650's or 325i's.
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07-04-2009, 06:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s4one
I ended up picking up a M-Audio Fast Track USB, the local shop had one in stock so I thought I would give it a try.
For those headfiers that are familiar to this, there are three knobs on this unit, a mic, mix and output. My question is why do I need to turn up the mix knob and output? Is there a DAC where I don't have to adjust noise volume? Such as a unit with just the USB port and two RCA cables?
On the other hand, my receiver that I am using for my setup is not very powerful, I am thinking of picking up a little dot but which power level will I need to power grado's? I have 80i's right now but I plan to pick up some higher level ones in the future, HD650's or 325i's.
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Grado's are one of the easiest headphones to drive, but if you plan on buying HD 650s you'll need something with a fair bit of grunt. I don't know much about the Little Dot amps, but a fair few people around here do and I'm sure one of them will be able to advise you.
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07-04-2009, 02:01 PM
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Looks like your needs are very straight forward. 1 usb in and 2 rca out in a DAC is a fair ask. The Pro-ject USB Box is economical at $95 at amazon Amazon.com: Sumiko Pro-Ject USB Box (Silver): Electronics
I have not used my Little Dot with a HD 650 but am pretty confident it should not be a problem. I use my LDII++ with a K501. These cans are known to require lots of current to drive them and the LD does it pretty well and sounds musically great as well. I have mine for sale in the FS section (if interested). A search in the amp forum should be able to provide you with more information on the synergy between LD and the various cans.
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07-04-2009, 06:59 PM
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Thanks, I actually looked at the Pro-Ject, thats seems like a great product. I will probabaly go this route thanks!!
I'm debating either to get the LD III or IV, will I need the extra juice that the IV provides?
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07-04-2009, 10:45 PM
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To power Grados, you are better off with the Little Dot I+, as it is designed for low impedence headphones. I am pretty sure the III and IV are both used commonly with the 650, but I have never heard either combination.
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07-05-2009, 10:10 PM
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Thanks I will consider getting a LD 2 or 3 just so I will be able to power other headphones in the future.
For the experts, I noticed on my setup right now that when I have my notebook hooked up the M-Audio Fast Track USB DAC I am still able to to control volume via my notebook's volume controls and the USB DAC. All in the all, I am able to control the volume on the DAC, notebook and the amp. Why is that?? I thought when I use audio out I am only suppose to adjust the volume via the amp. I am planning to upgrade to the Pro-ject USB box where it has no control for volume, is the better setup? I want to only be able to adjust the volume on the amp.
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07-05-2009, 10:15 PM
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From what I've read, keep the volume at 100% for all components till the amp, from where you can turn the volume up or down.
FYI, I checked today and the Amazon has the Pro-ject on sale for $70 shipped. Cant go wrong with that deal.
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Yea i noticed that.. Thanks!
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