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05-21-2008, 02:46 PM
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Looks like this interesting new comer should make it on the list :
iRoc
Also, Hagerman nows launched Hagerman Audio Lab, and the Chime is now called DA10:
Hagerman Audio Labs: DA-10 Vacuum Tube USB DAC
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05-21-2008, 02:59 PM
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The MSB Platinum DACs have the ability of having their proprietary DAC modules (4 of them in true balanced configuration) upgraded with their Signature DAC modules, a $6K upgrade. I have a Platinum II with Standard DAC modules and a Platinum III with Signature DAC modules and the difference is just stunning.
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05-21-2008, 03:13 PM
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Are they still selling the Chime or is that discontinued forever? The DA-10 appears to be twice as expensive (over $1,000 more).
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05-22-2008, 04:44 PM
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Peter Daniel DAC
Excellent work!
For those interested in the AudioZone DAC 1...
Contact Peter Daniel direct - phdaniel@sympatico.ca
He sells kits for DIY as well as complete units, including USB input. My completed unit is mounted on a maple plank and has USB input/RCA output - $350 including shipping - price may vary with exchange rate...
UD-10 info - Analogue output is via 1/8" mini plug only (could be used as headphone jack, but not that well regarded). I use mine as USB/SPDIF converter for input with Paradisea+ and like it better than native USB input...
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05-22-2008, 07:17 PM
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Quick question about the listings: why are PCM2702 and PCM2702E listed as such? Isn't PCM2702E just a packaging of the PCM2702? At least that's what the datasheet at TI seems to imply. If there is a difference between the chips, what exactly would that entail?
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05-22-2008, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tea-head
UD-10 info - Analogue output is via 1/8" mini plug only (could be used as headphone jack, but not that well regarded). I use mine as USB/SPDIF converter for input with Paradisea+ and like it better than native USB input...
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Thanks for the info... Like the Headamp Pico, I couldn't be sure of the size. Fixed. 
Quote:
Originally Posted by royalcrown
Quick question about the listings: why are PCM2702 and PCM2702E listed as such? Isn't PCM2702E just a packaging of the PCM2702? At least that's what the datasheet at TI seems to imply. If there is a difference between the chips, what exactly would that entail?
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They probably are the same, but where the DAC manufacturer listed the full model name in the specs, or where there has been confirmation from a designer or Head-Fier, I've listed it as well. Revisions can always crop up later, but it's true that for the case of the PCM2702, they probably won't release a K-grade. 
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05-23-2008, 10:49 AM
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DACs for almost 70k, wow.
What is so much different to a DAC for lets say 2k?
Is it possible to build such a high-end DAC and what would it cost?
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05-23-2008, 03:29 PM
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ONTech
I have one for you. ONTech (small Danish company).
The dacs have got rave reviews.
Link
Uses the AD1865N-K
They come in 3 types,
single ($2622),
dual mono ($4617),
dual balanced ($4617).
...more info on their kind of crappy page.
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05-23-2008, 04:46 PM
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Can't see the Ensemble Dichrono Hi DAC? Ensemble Audio
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05-24-2008, 03:04 PM
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Updated with more DACs.
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05-24-2008, 03:13 PM
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May be we should also add Audio Horizon's tube and solid state DAC ?
Tube DAC
Solid State DAC
They are pretty active at Audiogon.
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05-24-2008, 03:31 PM
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Added.
Do you know if the DAC-2a uses the AKM AK4396 like the TD 3.0? I couldn't find a confirmation... Also, do you know what inputs / outputs it has? Their page for it seems to lack that information.
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Quote:
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I'm not sure too on the chips.
Regarding outputs:
The 3.0 seems to have coaxial (S/PDIF) and balanced XLR (AES/EBU) as input, and single ended RCA and balanced XLR as outputs.
The 2.0a seems to have coaxial (S/PDIF) RCA and ST Optical as input, and both RCA single ended and balanced XLR as outputs.
Also, Audio Horizon appears to offer some customisation on the 3.0 for additional cost.
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06-09-2008, 01:55 PM
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Great effort .. just fantastic list. What would be interesting is to compare all models (using a spreadsheet i guess) listing all the DAC's, Op-Amps and Receivers used. There seems to be a big price difference between manufacturers who use virtually the same components.
I couldn't see the McIntosh MCA 1000 DAC in your list? Perhaps it is not made anymore?
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