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Old 10-23-2007, 04:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Highlights Part 2:

I did some listening to the Denon D5000 that zenman brought. They were quite fun to listen to out of the Cayin and Yamamoto, although I think the Balanced Desktop managed to cut through the fat a little better. I definitely see what people mean when they compare them to Senns. Denon may have lifted their model-numbering scheme from Audio-Technica, but they have a fit and finish all their own.

The Sony SA5000 may have been the biggest surprise of all this time around. I'm sensitive to emphasized treble (I like my Grado at low volumes) and I never expected to like these cans very much. I thought they sounded simply lovely out of the Yamamoto. Somewhat thin, sure, but still a stellar mix of liquidity, air and tiny detail that had Chan Marshall sounding angelic. I feel like I need more time with these (hint, hint ). I've always wondered if Drarthurwells was onto something pairing them with the Bada PH-12; perhaps the Yammy gets them sounding sweet in a similar way.

I briefly listened to a couple portable amps with the HF-1 including threEchelon's PINT, my SuperMacro as well as using just a Radioshack volume control cable out of my iMod. The SuperMacro seemed to have a cleaner, darker, more controlled sound, but the PINT seemed more transparent, maintaining the iMod's sound signature better. I am surprised at how good the iMod sounds without any amp at all. The SuperMacro definitely adds some fullness and its own slightly warm, dark character, noticeably refining the highs, but I could be happy with just the iMod and a crappy in-line volume Radioshack cable.

Later I listened to the MiniBox E using the K701 and I was impressed by how it went up against the SuperMacro. It also looks gorgeous. All this portable amp listening had me questioning the usefulness of spending large amounts of money on an amp to drive headphones or IEMs for casual listening.

I listened to the B-52 only briefly, but in terms of appearance it is a pure work of art.

The Darkvoice 332 definitely seems geared towards Senns. It made music with the HD580 and not so much with the K701. It also seemed to do okay with the D5000, although I think I prefer both the Cayin and the Balanced Desktop.

I also had a few seconds with the GS-1000 and the Cayin, and my cursory impression is that the match was good. Ken, you seemed to have more time with the pairing, so you would have a better idea. I'm curious as to whether you found any amps or sources that satisfied you.

Oh yeah, and threEchelon's vintage RS-1. I had a few moments with it and the Yammy in the early morning hours before Barry and Fang stormed the building. I liked what I heard, but unfortunately forgot to go back and listen again. I think I was on sonic overload by the end of the day. Barry, I think you were onto something when you said it would better to spend more time with less equipment (forgive the paraphrase).

Hilariously, there was a repetitive phenomenon at this meet. I'd watch someone remove his headphones and, not having heard the conversation already under way, begin talking to someone who was already engrossed in conversation with someone else. It was very funny to see again and again.

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Looks like you guys had a fun time, though this thread is worthless without pics.
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I got to try the K340's and K701's balanced and I still prefer the former over the latter. The K340's are more laid back and have more weight and finesse.
Out of the B52? I'm glad that I won't have to kick you out of the cult. :340smile:
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I was only able to spend about 2 hours at this meet, so my biggest impression is that 2 hours is not enough time for a meet. That said--

--I spent some time listening to a prototype earbuds that Nankai provided, and comparing it to my E500. I'm not sure if it had a model number or name--it was *not* the modified PK1. I found that the earbud sounded good overall, though the highs were somewhat exaggerated to my ear.

--I really liked Barry's Darkvoice with my Sennheiser HD580, and also with Barry's k701. I didn't like it so much with Grado RS-1s.

--Through the Melos, the RS-1s had a much better overall presentation, though they still have a treble emphasis that I find fatiguing. (There is clearly a theme here: I seem to definitely prefer a warmer presentation to a bright presentation.)

--I went back and forth comparing my k501 to Barry's k701 through his Darkvoice. They definitely sound different. The k701 had a somewhat stronger bass and a bit more forwardness in the upper register, but the k501 really held its own. I honestly couldn't decide which one I prefer.

--I spent a fair amount of time comparing the stock 650 cable on my HD580 to several aftermarket cables. The aftermarket cables are certainly better built and I suspect will last longer, and they're pretty, but they didn't make an appreciable difference to my ears. Clearly, others have a different experience, but this confirmed to me that my money would be better spent on other parts of the system besides cables.

Overall, I was pleasantly surprised to confirm that I am quite happy with the HD580, k501 and E500. There were some great-sounding pieces of gear at the meet, but nothing that made me feel like I need to trash my existing cans and get something new.
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Looks like you guys had a fun time, though this thread is worthless without pics. Out of the B52? I'm glad that I won't have to kick you out of the cult. :340smile:
Yeah out of the B52. :evil:


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Lewis, the SA5000's are at home. I'll ask my dad to ship them to you.
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Originally Posted by threEchelon View Post
The W2002's sounded better than any other headphone there. I can't help but feel that these phones are under-appreciated by head-fi.
Which amps did you listen to the W2002 with? Does the B-52 work with them?
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Sounds like you all had a great time! Did you guys take any pictures?
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Sounds like you all had a great time! Did you guys take any pictures?
Good question!

David snapped a few choice shots and I saw Ken taking some as well. Maybe if David edits out Nytryder's face it will be okay to post them?
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The W2002's sounded better than any other headphone there. I can't help but feel that these phones are under-appreciated by head-fi.
Missed this the first read through... better than your RS-1's and K340's? :blink:
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You're the only one who likes those k340s
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