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05-27-2008, 06:16 PM
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325i is just PS-1 in disguise.
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325i is just PS-1 in disguise.
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Many hope and pray this is true, sadly it isn't. Well sad for those that have 325i's and desperately want a PS-1 
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05-27-2008, 07:30 PM
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325i is just PS-1 in disguise.
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That's one hell of a bad sounding disguise
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I have a gut feeling that there are less than 4 different drivers and would not be surprised if there are only 2.
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I think your gut is probably seriously mistaken, having heard most of the grados.
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05-27-2008, 08:00 PM
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Still can't believe how people (even audiophiles, maybe especially them) can call a headphone like the 325i bad sounding. And having heard most of the grado's doesn't say a thing about how many drivers there are, just think of the previous mentioned Ultrasone example.
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05-27-2008, 08:17 PM
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Hmm, it can be easily investigated. Just gotta have all Grado headphones and loads of spare time.
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can it?
Go ahead delve into this and get back to us on this. Not sure how you or anyone shall know this for sure, what with the tolerances and analysis involved. Why does it matter such, seems like a trade secret more than anything.
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I have a gut feeling that there are less than 4 different drivers and would not be surprised if there are only 2.
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I've personally seen 3 pairs of Grado's, so there is at least 6.
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Still can't believe how people (even audiophiles, maybe especially them) can call a headphone like the 325i bad sounding. And having heard most of the grado's doesn't say a thing about how many drivers there are, just think of the previous mentioned Ultrasone example.
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Why? 325is sound like having a nail jabbed in your ear. And ultrasones all share the same "this doesn't sound right" tonal quality.
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With all headphones, I guess how good they sound depends on your ears, how loud you play, and on the music you play as well. Don't know if Ultrasones and 325is sound the same ... interesting thought, though.
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I know the 325 had piercing highs and was considered unbareable, but I listen to my 325i hours after hours without a single annoyance of any high, and this was already with my Zero SS amp, so its not the tubes taming it. I can't stand sibilance or annoying highs so its not my ears, maybe I got a defective pair of 325i's, or maybe your just wrong
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05-27-2008, 10:32 PM
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You're welcome to like 325s. Any dollar you're spending on them is money that's not being spent on something I'm trying to get . Same goes for utrasones. And I wasn't suggesting the 325s sounded like ultrasones. The 325is get tone right, they just have awful abrassive high end. The ultrasones just nail "this doesn't sound right"
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Have you ever heard the 325i's? As you keep interchanging the 325 and 325i's..
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Yes, yes. I generally mean 325is, because that's what we'd be talking about in a discussion of things that are currently being made...
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They may not be exactly the same, i.e. SR80 stamped on SR125s, but I bet, like most manufacturers, they are alike.
Where do you think a 'house-sound' comes from?
Also I'd bet drivers of SR60s are not built far from GS1000s...same tooling/machinery/engineers.
edit - I know noobs do SR60s, while veterans build GS1000s.
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Quote:
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1. IGrado, SR-60, Sr-80.
2. SR-125, SR-225.
3. SR-325, RS-2, RS-1.
4. GS-1000.
And sonic differences between models with same drivers are due to enclosure differences and pads.
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-60 and 80, same
-125, 225 and RS-2, same
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That would be five.
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why would you say the rs2 has the same drivers as 225 and 125?
what about the allessandros?
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