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Headphoneus Supremus: Moderator: Needs a regular fix of 'Fi. '06 National Meet Co-Coordinator
Originally Posted by ecclesand
(from Headwize) "The polar-silver-colored HFI-780 is specifically designed for DVD and gaming. It projects a speaker-like sound image valued by gamers. The low frequency ranges are tuned to reach the highest possible synergies with DSP-Systems like Dolby Headphone and Yamaha's Silent Cinema."
The Ultrasones geared for movies tend to be pretty bass-heavy, in a boomy way (unlike the Proline's very extended, textured bass).
Originally Posted by ecclesand
I really liked a lot of the qualities of the PL750 and PL2500, but the S Logic just ruined the overall presentation of the music to me by making the mids shouty.
Originally Posted by Skylab
Well, if they all incorporate S-Logic, I will be taking a pass, I think. Maybe there will be versions without that? I need to read up on it more, but in general I don't like that sort of thing.
I never found the S-Logic to make the midrange shouty on either the PL750's or the 2500's. Although, if I were to identify their main weakness, it is in the midrange.
Sky, it'd be a shame to dismiss the top Ultrasones based on such a bias before hearing them. As a closed headphone fan, you really owe it to yourself to spend some quality time with the Proline 750 and/or Edition9's.
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Well, if they all incorporate S-Logic, I will be taking a pass, I think. Maybe there will be versions without that? I need to read up on it more, but in general I don't like that sort of thing.
Not only do the 780s have S-Logic but "S-Logic Plus" for extra bass.
i think u should go for the pro750s instead for a little bit more money. it has the best bass i've ever heard and that's coming from the dt990s. the s-logic effect is just a fancy name for offset drivers, and it's very subtle. most people couldn't even tell a difference. i can tell, but i don't disagree that it's subtle. it just makes the the soundstage more circular around my head. i prefer the dt990s soundstage over it. it's larger and more airy. but in bass extension, tightness, slam, they beat the dt990s hands down, while matching the beyer's midrange and high quality.
i found the dt990s to have peaky treble that i needed to eq a lot to get rid of, the prolines have a near perfect tonal balance after burn-in that requires no eq. my friends confirmed this as well.
I'm not done with burn-in, but wow, those people that shout so much about the Proline 750 here are not kidding at all. Coming from the DT990 as well, I am very impressed with the sound presentation that I get from the Proline 750. The bass to me is on par with the DT990, which is a compliment to them in my opinion, and I like the treble even more on the Proline 750. Just a better presentation overall. The only limitation that they have is the soundstage.
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no doubt the soundstage is one of the best for the price range in closed, though? the s-logic to me as an engineer and getting into sound research is well.. logical. i'm curious as to how the 2500's soundstage compares to other open cans. i'll have to do more research on the emissions thing they tout though..
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no doubt the soundstage is one of the best for the price range in closed, though? the s-logic to me as an engineer and getting into sound research is well.. logical. i'm curious as to how the 2500's soundstage compares to other open cans. i'll have to do more research on the emissions thing they tout though..
Concerning the emissions thing, when I take my headphones to work a friend usually samples them. He has a hearing aide. With most headphones I bring in he gets bad feedback but whenever I bring in a pair of Ultrasone he has no problem with feedback.
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