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I just sent my order into RMC. This will be my very first set of headphones - I've been using IEMs exclusively for years. My current IEMs are UE11s. I've had some off line correspondence with others saying they think the Ed 9 and UE11s are perfect compliments. Since I can't afford Ed 9s (and didn't want my very first cans to be that expensive, what if i didn't like them or they didn't work for me?) I've decided to take a leap of faith on the HFI 780s. Comments that liken the 780s to Ed 9s are what pushed me over the edge. Hope you all are right.
I'll eventually report back when they arrive, have been burned in and I've had a chance to really listen to them. I expect this will be several weeks...
I spoke with the head of Ultrasone USA today. The HFI780's take what was learned from the Ed 9's, with a different placement of the driver, housing and tuning. It does use a different driver but other than that it is patterned very closely to the Ed 9 headphones, which is a good thing for those who want high quality sound at a medium or lower budget phone cost. I do wonder from having read accounts of the cable what a cable change would do.
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These are more up front, but I don't think they're in your face like Grados. They're aggressive, but from maybe the second row instead of climbing onstage. I don't like in your face sound, but I enjoyed the HFI-700s sound, and these are probably similar in that aspect I would guess (by all means feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though).
I really should stop chiming in since I don't have direct experience with these specifically.
Hmm... So kinda in between the HD580 and the Grado sound sig?
Sounds good...
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^They will not match your UE11s. I hope you know that...but they will be good after a good burn-in.
i personally think no IEM can match the sound of a good full-sized headphone. technically in sq yea but not in enjoyment of sound since fullsized cans give you a much larger speaker-like presentation that cannot be matched by tiny drivers placed so close to your eardrum.
i would never use an iem at home. and vastly prefer my full-sized cans over my earbuds/iems.
I tried both the PL750 and PL2500 and just couldn't get used to the S Logic. It's a shame really because both had a lot of good qualities that I like in a headphone. Is the S Logic Plus supposed to be better than plain old S Logic?
Originally Posted by MaloS
I don't get not being able to get used to S-Logic...its pretty trivial sounding, and pretty effective at what it does, very nice. It is not the S-Logic that I found to be bothersome O.o
x2...
Originally Posted by fraseyboy
Hmm... So kinda in between the HD580 and the Grado sound sig?
Sounds good...
this kinda hard to explained, have you ever heard K81dj/K518dj before ? if you do then, add more soundstaging there, more forward mid, more impact/agressive (i dont know what you ppl call about this one) on every detailed from sound instruments, deep bass response (20hz, oh my...)...this bass very tight and well controlled not bloated or even muddy on the mid bass, great impact though... and that are from what i've heard comming out from my DJ1... very forgiving cans...
i personally think no IEM can match the sound of a good full-sized headphone. technically in sq yea but not in enjoyment of sound since fullsized cans give you a much larger speaker-like presentation that cannot be matched by tiny drivers placed so close to your eardrum.
i would never use an iem at home. and vastly prefer my full-sized cans over my earbuds/iems.
Custom IEMs can do things substantially better than regular IEMs, and the detail retrieval / instrument separation, allowing for a more life-like presentation of instruments in space is top-notch in customs - while most 'good' full-size cans can't really do it until you reach similar price range. So it is between impact and believability of space queues...
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