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I think I'm keeping both but as Tony has still got my recabled version I have not been able to compare it to the TFP. I seem to have overcome the fit problems using the biflanges and cabling them in normal mode (not flip-flop). Pairing the TFP with the SuperMicro produces a fair bit of hiss but with my SuperMini (that has just returned from Xin) there is no hiss at all and I think I prefer the sound from the SuperMini to the SuperMicro. Also the fit of the SuperMini glued to the back of the 3rd gen Nano is much better, they were made for each other.
Thanks for the reply! I really want to try them, but I'm still afraid that comfort will put me off and recabled ER4S is almost perfect, the exception being bad produced music like most of rock and metal.
It's funny, I sold my 60GB iMod last week and I'm waiting for my 8GB iPod 3G and SuperMini IV (bought from another head-fier) to arrive this week, so I'll have pretty much the same setup as you. I looked at the specs and they're almost the same size, so I may have found my ultimate portable setup. iMod + SuperMacro was nice, but it's so damn big and ugly that's it was not really portable. I still have my Macro though so I'll be able to compare between Macro and Mini.
I've been listening to my Triple.fi for a while now and I find them very detailed and articulate. You can hear everything and I mean everything in any song or piece you play through them.
However, I still miss my ER-4P/S. I know the Etys are known for being super-detailed and analytical, but I find that the Triple.Fi is more analytical IMHO. I think the Etys actually do a better job of presenting the emotion in the music than the Triple.fi. In fact I feel that the Triple.fi is the more analytical IEM.
It is an amazing sounding IEM with loads of bass (in fact I think an almost borderline excessive amount of bass), and detail across all frequency ranges. Every instrument is clearly audible and to me these phones sound like studio monitors (not really surprising considering that the company caters primarily to the professional market). However, the Etys as detailed as they are, don't have the top to bottom resolving power of the Triple.fi, but they sound more musical to me. In a way the Triple.fi is very enjoyable on-the-go due to their strong bass, but the mids actually are a little recessed and while detail in the midrange is not lacking at all, the "impact" of the midrange isn't quite there. It just doesn't communicate the music to me as well as the Etys. I will do a real comparison after my Etys get fixed. My comments about the Etys are based on memory.
Another thing about the Triple.fi: are they serious about how fat the end of those have to be? I mean even with the smallest tip it seems like it was designed to be put into a nostril and not an ear. Does everyone but me have huge ear canals? Even with foamies they are absolutely brutal on my ears.
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Sources: iPod 4th Gen 40GB, iPod 4th Gen 60GB, Sony SCD-1, Music Hall MMF-2.1
Thanks for the reply! I really want to try them, but I'm still afraid that comfort will put me off and recabled ER4S is almost perfect, the exception being bad produced music like most of rock and metal.
It's funny, I sold my 60GB iMod last week and I'm waiting for my 8GB iPod 3G and SuperMini IV (bought from another head-fier) to arrive this week, so I'll have pretty much the same setup as you. I looked at the specs and they're almost the same size, so I may have found my ultimate portable setup. iMod + SuperMacro was nice, but it's so damn big and ugly that's it was not really portable. I still have my Macro though so I'll be able to compare between Macro and Mini.
That is almost exactly what I did. I had a 4th gen iMod plus a Xin Reference and it was wonderfull but just too big so I sold it. The SuperMini plus 3rd gen Nano are so perfect for each other stuck together with thin double sided carpet tape.
I run the cable twice round the amp and loop it through the micro dock for a very compact system with a cable length just the right length for my inside jacket pocket. Only gripe with the SuperMini is that the volume wheel is so easy to turn that it often gets turned by accident just sitting in the pocket.
Originally Posted by sxr71
I've been listening to my Triple.fi for a while now and I find them very detailed and articulate. You can hear everything and I mean everything in any song or piece you play through them.
However, I still miss my ER-4P/S. I know the Etys are known for being super-detailed and analytical, but I find that the Triple.Fi is more analytical IMHO. I think the Etys actually do a better job of presenting the emotion in the music than the Triple.fi. In fact I feel that the Triple.fi is the more analytical IEM.
It is an amazing sounding IEM with loads of bass (in fact I think an almost borderline excessive amount of bass), and detail across all frequency ranges. Every instrument is clearly audible and to me these phones sound like studio monitors (not really surprising considering that the company caters primarily to the professional market). However, the Etys as detailed as they are, don't have the top to bottom resolving power of the Triple.fi, but they sound more musical to me. In a way the Triple.fi is very enjoyable on-the-go due to their strong bass, but the mids actually are a little recessed and while detail in the midrange is not lacking at all, the "impact" of the midrange isn't quite there. It just doesn't communicate the music to me as well as the Etys. I will do a real comparison after my Etys get fixed. My comments about the Etys are based on memory.
Another thing about the Triple.fi: are they serious about how fat the end of those have to be? I mean even with the smallest tip it seems like it was designed to be put into a nostril and not an ear. Does everyone but me have huge ear canals? Even with foamies they are absolutely brutal on my ears.
Yes, I'm hard pushed to say which phone I prefer and think it depends on my mood and the specific track I'm playing. Both are really great phones. The APS Ety wins hands down for comfort and portability but the TFP gets me as close as I've been with anything portable to my L3000's sound so it's a very hard choice.
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Bedroom Rig : Jungson CDT2 (Amperex A2900 tubes) > NLE-053 xlr > RudiStor RPX-100 > ATH-L3000 APureSound V2 xlr / GS-1000 Black Dragon xlr
Travel Rig : Sony D-NE920 pcdp > qusp mini-mini > RudiStor XJ-03 > ATH-ESW9 APureSound V3
Portable Rig : 8 GB iPhone 3G > Etymotics HF2 with black olives (qusp low profile iPhone LOD when used with amp)
Anyone got any comparisons of the TF10 vs LiveWires?
1) The Livewires are a little more transparent, which allows you to feel closer to the live instruments (good).
2) There is a slight hump in the midbass of the Triple.fi 10 Pro (not good) that sounds better when removed via EQ, but hump doesn't have to be removed if you just take time to adjust to it.
3) The Triple.fi 10 pro have more low-end bass (good).
4) They both (LW and TF) have better treble than the SE530 (good), which is smoother than the ER6i treble, and without the slightly less detailed treble of the Denon AH-C700 (good).
5) The Livewires fit like a glove, but inserting the Triple.fi into smallish ear canals feel like you are OJ Simpson trying to make The glove fit.
That's it in a nutshell.
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Originally Posted by Sovkiller
There is no doubt that getting older is mandatory, but to mature remains still optional...
LarryHead-Fi Feedback MAIN RIG: Marantz CD5001 > Synergistic Research Coax > Apogee mini-DAC with Sigma 11 PSU > ALO SXC XLR IC's > Single Power Square Wave XL balanced amp > balanced markl woodied Denon D2000 with APS V2 cable >>> ALO SXC mini-RCA IC > Woo GES Maxed > Sennheiser HE60/Stax O2 Mk2 >>> or to Woo Audio Maxxed WA6 w/Sophia Princess rectifier/RCA 6DE7 > Grado RS-1 with APS V3 cable. BEDSIDE RIG: Sony D-303 or iRiver H140 > Sysconcept.ca optical > HeadRoom Micro DAC > barqy silver plated copper mini-RCA > Travagans Red and Black > Edition 9 with APS V3 cable. BASEMENT RIG: iBook > USB PICO > Head-Direct EF1 with RCA cleartop > ATH-ESW10JPN. PORTABLE RIG: iMod 80gb 5.5G > barqy silver in silk LOD > ALO portable V-Cap dock > ALO Cryo Silver X mini-mini > RSA Predator > Livewires T1. LAPTOP RIG: MacBook > USB iBasso D2 > RS-1 or Edition 9 with APS V3 cable. FOR SALE: Ibanez starter electric guitar (red) with scratches, Ibanez amp and softcase in great condition - PM me for pics.
Well, I've done gone and sold off the Triple.fi 10 pro (and ER6i) as promised.
They just didn't compare as well to the "Live right there" sound of the Livewires which I compared them to above. Livewires is an appropriate name for an earphone so transparent that it vanishes when listening to a good source.
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Originally Posted by Sovkiller
There is no doubt that getting older is mandatory, but to mature remains still optional...
LarryHead-Fi Feedback MAIN RIG: Marantz CD5001 > Synergistic Research Coax > Apogee mini-DAC with Sigma 11 PSU > ALO SXC XLR IC's > Single Power Square Wave XL balanced amp > balanced markl woodied Denon D2000 with APS V2 cable >>> ALO SXC mini-RCA IC > Woo GES Maxed > Sennheiser HE60/Stax O2 Mk2 >>> or to Woo Audio Maxxed WA6 w/Sophia Princess rectifier/RCA 6DE7 > Grado RS-1 with APS V3 cable. BEDSIDE RIG: Sony D-303 or iRiver H140 > Sysconcept.ca optical > HeadRoom Micro DAC > barqy silver plated copper mini-RCA > Travagans Red and Black > Edition 9 with APS V3 cable. BASEMENT RIG: iBook > USB PICO > Head-Direct EF1 with RCA cleartop > ATH-ESW10JPN. PORTABLE RIG: iMod 80gb 5.5G > barqy silver in silk LOD > ALO portable V-Cap dock > ALO Cryo Silver X mini-mini > RSA Predator > Livewires T1. LAPTOP RIG: MacBook > USB iBasso D2 > RS-1 or Edition 9 with APS V3 cable. FOR SALE: Ibanez starter electric guitar (red) with scratches, Ibanez amp and softcase in great condition - PM me for pics.
1) The Livewires are a little more transparent, which allows you to feel closer to the live instruments (good).
2) There is a slight hump in the midbass of the Triple.fi 10 Pro (not good) that sounds better when removed via EQ, but hump doesn't have to be removed if you just take time to adjust to it.
3) The Triple.fi 10 pro have more low-end bass (good).
4) They both (LW and TF) have better treble than the SE530 (good), which is smoother than the ER6i treble, and without the slightly less detailed treble of the Denon AH-C700 (good).
5) The Livewires fit like a glove, but inserting the Triple.fi into smallish ear canals feel like you are OJ Simpson trying to make The glove fit.
That's it in a nutshell.
Thanks for that great comparison. I really like the sound of my Triple.Fi's, but the fit is horrible. I am now trying custom tips, but I am still thinking that a true custom might be the perfect way to go!
