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09-06-2008, 04:27 PM
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my balanced Grado GS1000 vs unbalanced Hp-2
Since I now own both headphones, it would be nice to compare them.
I am still a bit of a noob with headphone terms.
I am sure other people might have had the chance to compare them with one another. I am really proud to have them both.
First I tested the GS1000 in unbalanced mode, I found out that the Gs1000 really needs the balanced gain to be adequate enough to compare it with an unbalanced Hp-2!
I compared my Hp-2 with my balanced Gs1000 and I found out that Gs1000's soundstage adds more levels to the bass. I feel that the bass is more alive with the Gs1000. Especially when hearing the bass of live Bob Marley music - Bob Marley Babylon by Bus (with reggae music you can hear a continuous bass which makes it really good music to compare a headphone bass). For the mean time, I can't add any other sound characteristics (that's why I am a bit of a noob).
I like both headphones very much!
I would like to compare a balanced Hp-2 with a balanced GS1000, so I will certainly send my Hp-2 to Moon-Audio for balanced 3-pin Xlr termination (I can't do it myself and I tried the DIY forum as well) in a couple of months.
I don't know if a balanced Hp-2 will out perform a balanced Gs1000.
Sometimes it's hard to compare headphones, especially when they are so good in sound. I don't know if the bass will get better in levels after balanced termination (just like a balanced Gs1000 generates live bass after balanced operation).
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09-06-2008, 05:06 PM
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I also tried Gs1000 pads on the Hp-2. The Hp-2 really needs it's stock pads, the Hp-2 phones are too far away from the ears with the Gs1000 pads. The Hp-2 really needs to be close to the ears.
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09-07-2008, 12:10 AM
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When I compare the 2 headphones to my other rig (view the signature), then I have to conclude that none of the 2 headphones can out perform the Akg k1000 RWA Sig 30.2 combo!
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09-07-2008, 12:14 AM
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Quote:
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When I compare the 2 headphones to my other rig (view the signature), then I have to conclude that none of the 2 headphones can out perform the Akg k1000 RWA Sig 30.2 combo!
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compared to the Akg K1k rig without the subwoofer! Of course with the subwoofer enabled it wouldn't be fair to compare the cans.
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09-07-2008, 01:07 AM
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****, man, do I miss my K1000, ****...
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09-07-2008, 10:00 AM
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I have 2 Akg k1k's. Maybe after I have some decent speakers, I might sell one Akg 1k on Head-Fi - both are Stefan AudioArt hardwired with an Equinox extension cable. I don't have any immediate plans to buy a pair of speakers. I wouldn't pay more then $800 USD for a pair of speakers. I might be interested in a pair of Aci Emerald speakers.
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09-07-2008, 10:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alexdemaet
I compared my Hp-2 with my balanced Gs1000 and I found out that Gs1000's soundstage adds more levels to the bass. I feel that the bass is more alive with the Gs1000. Especially when hearing the bass of live Bob Marley music - Bob Marley Babylon by Bus (with reggae music you can hear a continuous identical bass which makes it really good music to compare a headphone's bass). For the mean time, I can't add any other sound characteristics (that's why I am a bit of a noob).
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My balanced amp allows me to test the 2 headphones simultaneously. This allows me to switch the headphones at any time.
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09-07-2008, 10:10 AM
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compared to the Akg K1k rig without the subwoofer! Of course with the subwoofer enabled it wouldn't be fair to compare the cans.
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It just depends on the taste you have on a given day.
I like the GS1000 as much as the Akg K1k!
Sometimes it's like you are comparing apples with ...
The Akg K1k is not really a headphone, it's an ear speaker. While the Gs1000 is really a headphone.
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09-10-2008, 08:28 AM
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Interesting thread! I like the way you've carried on the conversation with yourself. I feel like doing that at times myself.
I've got a single ended pair of HP-2 as well as balanced GS-1000 also but have never had the chance to do any comparisons between the two of them. Until recently, I had been waiting a long time to get a balanced amp, but even now that I have one, it's still not here in Cayman yet! But soon, I hope. Then I'll do some of these same comparisons myself. I've never actually had a chance to hear my pair of GS-1000, although I've liked the other ones I've heard.
I do agree that the HP-2 is not terribly strong in the bass region, but I think it's a very clear and well defined bass. So at least what you do get is pretty good.
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09-10-2008, 08:42 AM
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Interesting thread! I like the way you've carried on the conversation with yourself. I feel like doing that at times myself.
I've got a single ended pair of HP-2 as well as balanced GS-1000 also but have never had the chance to do any comparisons between the two of them. Until recently, I had been waiting a long time to get a balanced amp, but even now that I have one, it's still not here in Cayman yet! But soon, I hope. Then I'll do some of these same comparisons myself. I've never actually had a chance to hear my pair of GS-1000, although I've liked the other ones I've heard.
I do agree that the HP-2 is not terribly strong in the bass region, but I think it's a very clear and well defined bass. So at least what you do get is pretty good.
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Thank you very much 
My english is getting better.
Indeed, that's why I definitelly want to keep the Hp-2 for at least a year. I have sent the Hp-2 to Moon-Audio for XLR Black Dragon re-cabling.
I have read and heard that the Gs1000 - the GS1k must have balanced terminations of course - get's a nice "boost" when connected to a balanced rig. I am pretty aware of that, because I can hear it by myself (I can compare the identical - only have one pair - GS1000 in balanced mode and unbalanced mode - with a XLR-1/4' adapter).
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09-12-2008, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alexdemaet
I would like to compare a balanced Hp-2 with a balanced GS1000, so I will certainly send my Hp-2 to Moon-Audio for balanced 3-pin Xlr termination (I can't do it myself and I tried the DIY forum as well) in a couple of months.
I don't know if a balanced Hp-2 will out perform a balanced Gs1000.
Sometimes it's hard to compare headphones, especially when they are so good in sound. I don't know if the bass will get better in levels after balanced termination (just like a balanced Gs1000 generates live bass after balanced operation).
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I won't be able to compare a balanced Hp-2 vs a balanced GS1000 because I decided to sell the Hp-2.
You can find out why at SOLD: Joseph Grado HP-2 / HP-1000 with JGSUWBR cable
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11-09-2008, 08:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wmcmanus
Interesting thread! I like the way you've carried on the conversation with yourself. I feel like doing that at times myself.
I've got a single ended pair of HP-2 as well as balanced GS-1000 also but have never had the chance to do any comparisons between the two of them. Until recently, I had been waiting a long time to get a balanced amp, but even now that I have one, it's still not here in Cayman yet! But soon, I hope. Then I'll do some of these same comparisons myself. I've never actually had a chance to hear my pair of GS-1000, although I've liked the other ones I've heard.
I do agree that the HP-2 is not terribly strong in the bass region, but I think it's a very clear and well defined bass. So at least what you do get is pretty good.
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Did you get a chance to compare yet?
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