I prefer Apuresound ER-4P than ER-4S

[jlingo]

Now that I have been using Apuresound cable for few months, I prefer Apuresound ER-4P than S by a lot.

I find that Apuresound in the ER-4P configuration to have a much more organic, fuller and punchier bigger bass especially when being paired to predator. Midrange is super sweet too.

The first time I received the ER-4P Apuresound cable, I found the bass too be loose and flabby. After 100s of burned-in the bass now tightened with authority and very musical.

I thought I would share this experience since many of the threads I read, recommended more towards ER-4S. ER-4S Apuresounds is lacking of midrange for my taste, making it to sound more sterile and analytical.

For those who found Etymotic to be analytical, give ER-4P Apuresound a try.

The following combination is awesome. I could finally live without UE-11.
iMOD 5.5 -> ALO Au/Ag -> Vcap -> CablePro Panorama -> Predator -> ER-4P(Apuresound)

[antonyfirst]

No replies for this thread? This interesting news, and I consider Jlingo my most rated reference for portable listening.

[nc8000]

Very interesting indeed. I might have to ask Alex to replace the resistor in mine as it has been send back for repairs anyway.

[webbie64]

Totally agree on this being valuable info that appears to have simply slipped by.

It shows how some of the quality SQ improvment info can be lost amongst more general discussion threads.

I mean, 'live without UE11' implies quite a bit

[jlingo]

Thanks Anthonyfirst,

ER-4P Apuresound has an exceptional synergy with the predator.
And of course I couldn't stress this awesome combination further:
iMOD 5.5 -> ALO Au/Ag -> Vcap -> CablePro Panorama -> Predator -> ER-4P(Apuresound)

Changing mini to mini Panorma cable to Cardas or EarCandy Lite, making the midrange less open and thinner

Once you get the proper system matching with ER-4P Apuresound, WOW! You won't believe what you are hearing.

Also with ER-4P Apuresound, you could hear a huge difference between iMOD VCAP PANORAMA and the iPOD Classic. With iMOD VCAP, the soundstage is like 2x bigger and more detailed with all the upper surrounding air floating around. I couldn't hear this with UE11. I tried iMOD VCAP and iPOD Classic with Sennheiser HD650 also less impressed.

But UE11 is great during commuting, I think the isolation and the more upfront sound character is great for active lifestyle and in fighting against ambience noise such as on the plane, at the gym. UE11 is also higher resolution sounding, but ER-4P Apuresound is a very fun IEM to listen too. ER-4P Apuresound doesn't sound anything like the regular ER-4P, it's closer to Triple.Fi but with sweeter midrange and better bass. Triple.Fi bass IMO is not deep enough and slight midbass hump especially when compared to UE11

Another thing, has anybody tried ipod classic with vcap? It makes iPOD classic more musical and bigger soundstage, more holographic, more organic, more laid back. But still nothing like the iMOD IMO.

@AnthonyFirst: I haven't tested Apuresound with LISA III again, may be I will try to compare LISA III and the predator But for now I'm very impressed with predator ER-4P. I think predator helps though, as predator has a very punchy deep, strong, articulate bass. It's a really fun bass to listen too. Predator's bass is its strongest strength. LISA III bass is a little bit on a warm side and slower as far as I remember. Because before I own predator, I was listening ER-4P Apuresound with LISA III. Although impressed, I didn't recall, it was as enjoyable as using ER-4P and the predator. Also the size of the predator is so miniscule compared to the giant LISA III. Try predator with ER-4P Apuresound if you have a chance. With the predator, you could hear a big difference between ER-4P Apuresound and ER-4S Apuresound. I prefer the P. Using LISA III, I already forgot whether I prefer the P or the S. But I remember with LISA III Using ER-4P Apuresound making it to sound closer to the Triple.Fi.

[Andrew_WOT]

Did you happen to hear ER4P with stock cable, may be you just like P signature better?
Etymotic known to use high quality cable in ER4, I mean not APS level, but not crap either, it's a silver plated copper, not sure if that leaves a lot of room for improvement.

[jlingo]

Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT

Did you happen to hear ER4P with stock cable, may be you just like P signature better?
Etymotic known to use high quality cable in ER4, I mean not APS level, but not crap either, it's a silver plated copper, not sure if that leaves a lot of room for improvement.

Yes I do sir. In fact, ER-4P is the first IEM that I have purchased even way before I got to know headfi I like the stock ER-4P but not as much as the stock ER-4S due to a midbass hump, smaller soundstage, less detailed sounding.

I often hear people complain that etymotic sounds tinny, digital, clinical. Well, Apuresound cable actually improves all these weaknesses

Apuresound P series changed stock ER-4P by adding Bigger soundstage, Deeper more defined bass, Fuller rounder sweeter midrange. It improves on all aspects compared with ER-4P stock cable.

But then again, I'm talking about ER-4P Apuresound with the predator. In my experience, System matching affects the sound greatly.

[FeedMeTrance]

id really love to try out the APS cable, but the price is just far to high for cables for my liking. Might try and do some selling off, but its still a huge investment!

maybe ill wait till someone in melb has em and see what they're really like!

btw got some pics?

[xnothingpoetic]

Interesting

[antonyfirst]

Hi Jeffri,

How do you find the Apuresound P to behave in regards to sibilance? Does it have any peaks in the 5-8 kHz range?
I think ER4P is more forgiving than both ER4S and Apuresound S. Does the Apuresound ER4P improve that?

And yes, I'd be happy about a head to head comparison between Predator and Lisa III. I remember that when you used to listen to your Lisa, the Apuresound ER4 weren't fully burned in, so things might have changed now.