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Old 02-15-2008, 03:10 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Hot is normally a term applied to analogue recording and mixing levels and refers to a signal being over the unity threshold (+4dBu) or, in more layman's terms, a little too high in volume! In an analogue system, this would result in compression artefacts and a slight reduction in the high frequencies. This is often perceived as "warmth".

We don't usually refer to digital signals as hot, as of course a digital signal cannot exceed 0dB.

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Pink Noise is equal power across the musical octave spectrum whereas white noise is equal power for every hertz. This results in white noise sounding top heavy compared to pink noise. Pink noise is most often used for testing purposes, to analyse the frequency response of cans, mics, monitors etc., and indeed rooms and monitoring environments.

Looking at the list of terms for frequency ranges, I wouldn't take it as gospel, although as a rough guide for the uninitiated, it's useful.

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Looking at the list of terms for frequency ranges, I wouldn't take it as gospel, although as a rough guide for the uninitiated, it's useful.

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Extreme Bottom : below 32 Hz
Low bass, Bottom octave : 20 to 40 Hz
Midbass : 40 to 80 Hz
Upper bass : 80 to 160 Hz
Lower midrange : 160 to 320 Hz
Midrange : 320 to 2560 Hz (2.5 kHz)
Upper midrange : 2560 to 5120 Hz (2.56-5.12 kHZ)
Highs, lower highs : 5120 to 10,240 Hz (5.12-10.24 kHz)
Extreme highs, top octave : 10,240 to 20,000 Hz (10.24-20 kHz)

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I can only assume you're referring to this. Care to elaborate? As I am, one of the uninitiated, and would really like to know your thoughts.
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Hi Rob,

For example extreme bottom would usually be refered to as sub or sub bass freqs. I've always thought of extreme highs as 12+kHz, mids usually means roughly 1-4kHz. You then commonly hear terms like mid-highs, high-mids, etc. To a certain extent we tend to make it up as we go along, although we always seem to know what we are talking about?! Must be tricky if you're starting out, but you'll get the hang of it.

I've been in the music business for 25 years and there are no specific terms = frequencies, we use the terms as a rough guide and then specify the freq if we want to talk specifics.

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Hiya Gregorio,

I appreciate your perspective on this. FWIW; When I noted that the OP fordgtlover commented... "I was unable to find any real consensus on the breakdown of the frequency range into bass, mids and highs (and the divisions within those ranges). If anyone has an authoratative view on this, I'd love to hear it."

I recalled seeing this info in print somewhere and thought I'd contribute to the thread, giving proper credit to its source.

Being a devoted reader of "The Absolute Sound" magazine for many years (about 1980-2001), I personally consider Harry Pearson as authoritative a source as can be found. His "breakdown" seems more specific, and yours somewhat general. However no one's infallible, and I sincerely do appreciate your perspective (as said earlier).

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Hiya Gregorio,

I appreciate your perspective on this. FWIW; When I noted that the OP fordgtlover commented... "I was unable to find any real consensus on the breakdown of the frequency range into bass, mids and highs (and the divisions within those ranges). If anyone has an authoratative view on this, I'd love to hear it."

I recalled seeing this info in print somewhere and thought I'd contribute to the thread, giving proper credit to its source.

Being a devoted reader of "The Absolute Sound" magazine for many years (about 1980-2001), I personally consider Harry Pearson as authoritative a source as can be found. His "breakdown" seems more specific, and yours somewhat general. However no one's infallible, and I sincerely do appreciate your perspective (as said earlier).

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Harry Pearson's "breakdown" might be very specific but to a certain extent it's irrelevant unless everyone sticks to his classification, which they do not. Remember also that there are often differences in terminology depending on which side of the pond you're in. For example in the UK we use the word crotchet while in the states we'd say quarter note.

I know you're looking for specific answers but unfortunately they don't really exist in this instance. Go ahead and use Pearson's classifications if you wish but if few others use that classification then it's not really much use as a method of communicating freq ranges with other people. As I said to start with, as a guideline it's useful but if you take it as gospel you'll be disappointed that you may still not be communicating what you think you're communicating.

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Wow this is great. I think I count as a noob. Many of these words I knew, and many I did not. Thanks fordgtlover!
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While searching for reviews of Sony DAPs, I came across this two word japanese phrase that meant slight emphasis on bass and treble (or slightly depressed midrange). I tried looking for the site but could not find it anymore.

Does anybody know that japanese phrase?
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It's my pleasure. Audio is such a wonderful journey that we are all noobs in some respect or another - no-one knows it all.
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