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Old 06-09-2007, 03:37 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aaron-xp View Post
Nah. "Traditional" IEMs have a better seal that the XB/X3 as they are able to go deeper into the ear canal, although that is not to say that the XB/X3 have horrible noise isolation (I feel that it is better than that of the EP630).
oh i know that, i meant XB > X3 in terms of isolation because of aluminum
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oh i know that, i meant XB > X3 in terms of isolation because of aluminum
Correct me if I am wrong, but just on sound conduction along, didn't metal conduct more sound than plastic since it is more dense?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but just on sound conduction along, didn't metal conduct more sound than plastic since it is more dense?
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I have just received X3 and feel its lacks upper highs and there is treble role off. Mids are better than my CX300. Bass is better. But trebles are lacking. Will this change after burn-in? Then how long will it take?
What were your findings? I am experiencing the same thing. I can't quite pinpoint a freq range as it seems to be very broad.
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the x3 just does not have an in-your-face sound to them. Rather than breaking them in, just listen to them and let your ears get used to it
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I got my soft bi-flange from Uncle Wilson on Monday and now my X3 sounds even better. Get those tips if you can!

CX300 may have a slightly more extended treble, but I often find it harsh and unbearable.
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How do these compare to the Alessandro MS-1 and Shure e2c?
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Heh.

I've been listening, most of last night and all of today, with pink noise run overnight. I think there's too much mid-bass that seems to spill over a broad frequency range and not enough of everything else to complement it. The sound is a few steps shy of being called boomy, and it's definitely heavily veiled. I think the speed is fairly poor in the lower regions as well.

It seems to have an odd frequency curve. It's hard to tell if the mid-bass is contaminating everything or if the mid to upper-mid is just sucked out. There's definitely an odd sound as cymbals decay and the frequency crosses over this region, it goes from being relatively clear to muted.

It's fine for soft music like some cello pieces, which do sound quite good like the Fantastic Children Voyage (cello version), The Cranberries to Jewel/Michelle Branch to possibly techno, but for aggressive rock, it's not favoring well. Even slower metal like Dark Tranquility, melodic death metal, it seems murky and off-balance. When I hit it with thrash, like Slayer's Angel of Death, the bass seems like a rumble and the overall sound doesn't have much "snap" to it. When I hit it with death metal, Dismember's On Frozen Fields, the cymbal work is almost imperceptible behind the toms. When I hit it with extreme death metal, Hate Eternal's Behold Judas, it's pretty bad is the only way I can phrase it. As I listen to Sepultura's Dead Embryonic Cells, there's a huge gap between the cymbals and anything else. I've never noticed that before, like something is just sucked out.

Of course, I'll spend at least a month or two with them to see how it ends up.
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Heh.

I've been listening, most of last night and all of today, with pink noise run overnight. I think there's too much mid-bass that seems to spill over a broad frequency range and not enough of everything else to complement it. The sound is a few steps shy of being called boomy, and it's definitely heavily veiled. I think the speed is fairly poor in the lower regions as well.

It seems to have an odd frequency curve. It's hard to tell if the mid-bass is contaminating everything or if the mid to upper-mid is just sucked out. There's definitely an odd sound as cymbals decay and the frequency crosses over this region, it goes from being relatively clear to muted.

It's fine for soft music like some cello pieces, which do sound quite good like the Fantastic Children Voyage (cello version), The Cranberries to Jewel/Michelle Branch to possibly techno, but for aggressive rock, it's not favoring well. Even slower metal like Dark Tranquility, melodic death metal, it seems murky and off-balance. When I hit it with thrash, like Slayer's Angel of Death, the bass seems like a rumble and the overall sound doesn't have much "snap" to it. When I hit it with death metal, Dismember's On Frozen Fields, the cymbal work is almost imperceptible behind the toms. When I hit it with extreme death metal, Hate Eternal's Behold Judas, it's pretty bad is the only way I can phrase it. As I listen to Sepultura's Dead Embryonic Cells, there's a huge gap between the cymbals and anything else. I've never noticed that before, like something is just sucked out.

Of course, I'll spend at least a month or two with them to see how it ends up.
this is highy dissapointing and seems somewhat contrary to what kramer and co have been saying. now i am thinking twice, maybe i shall just buy more tips and use my e4c's more.
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Yes, I agree. Something is amiss. I'll analyze some basics tomorrow, like my insertion technique, if it's supposed to be inserted at all or just rest in the cups like an ear bud, etc. I'm not sure I want to play with tips just yet, as I do get a good seal and isolation.
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