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08-07-2004, 10:10 AM
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Cracks on my DT440 :\
I've just notced a crack on the headband of the DT440!! anyone else notice something like this? does the warentty cover the headband?
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08-07-2004, 03:53 PM
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didn't you just get them.
i would think they are covered by warranty.
I am not a big fan of the headbands featured on the new DT series from Beyer or for that matter the collapsible ones on ultrasone.
have read tooo many reports of cracking on them.
You should check out the DT770-80 ohm version or maybe even the DT990
they should be pretty good replacements plus they were made to replace WMD's, you know 
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08-07-2004, 03:57 PM
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hm.. well i just put some tape over them and i'll decide if i want to send them in and wait to get it fixed
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 Now I'm going to have to baby my new DT440's to keep them from cracking. I was hoping that Beyer fixed the headband but apparently not. It's a good thing they come with a two year warantee.
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I just knew this was going to happen, though I had no idea it'd come so quickly. Well there's another line of cans I'll never own
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08-07-2004, 06:38 PM
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oh no.....not the new Beyers too 
this is really terrible...who on earth designed this crappy headband?
First it was the HD280s, now it's the Ultrasone's and the Beyers....I feel sorry for people who bought the Ultrasone Edition 7....it looks like it's got the same headband....
My Ultrasone HFI 500 DJ1 has got a lot of cracks on it....it's not in use right now...I've taken the headband apart...which wasn't exactly easy...it's quite a mess...there are lots of pieces and screws everywhere now....
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08-07-2004, 06:48 PM
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Extremely poor quality control!!! This is really really really bad engineering, or purchasing, or manufacturing.
To me, there's no excuse for this type of poor quality.
Even Coby products don't crack!
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08-07-2004, 06:57 PM
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it's not a matter of quality control....it's a matter of flawed design...totally flawed design....these headbands are ugly, complicated, uncomfortable, heavy, and don't last long....the only thing they might offer due to it's rigidity is more isolation, but for something like the DT440, that doesn't matter...it's an open phone, isn't it?
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08-07-2004, 07:01 PM
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can someone take a pic so i know exactly the part that cracks.
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08-07-2004, 07:03 PM
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It's a good thing they come with a two year warantee.
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Well, there's really no point of two year guarantee, if the headband keeps getting cracked after getting it replaced....you can't get it replaced forever!!
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I never figured out why so many other companies wanted to emulate the first cracking POS headband of the Sony V700's. Seriously they all look the same, look and operate clunky, and apparently crack easy.
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that is why Beyer should have stuck with the older industrial style headbands like those on the DT531, 831, 931. those thing sare literally unbreakable.
or they should go for the newer DT880/ 770/990 style headbands which are rock solid.
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08-07-2004, 08:28 PM
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can someone take a pic so i know exactly the part that cracks.
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Check out the pics in this thread. The HD280 and Beyer DT440/660/860 all seem to use the same headband design.
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08-07-2004, 10:52 PM
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it's not a matter of quality control....it's a matter of flawed design...totally flawed design....these headbands are ugly, complicated, uncomfortable, heavy, and don't last long....the only thing they might offer due to it's rigidity is more isolation, but for something like the DT440, that doesn't matter...it's an open phone, isn't it?
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Hi hero zer,
OK! I'll reveal myself. I've designed some headphones which are selling on the market today. I'm an industrial designer who has worked on aesthetics, cosmetic, stylistic side of design. NOT engineering. But I do oversee the whole project from sketches to final packaging of the product.
It's really a combination of problems. Like the sennheiser hd280 pix, it's definitely engineering and quality control issue. When you see a crack in the middle of the headband, it's design and engineering flaw from the beginning. When designing headband, I have to come up with curve, flexibility, rigidity, weight, durability, adjustability, manufacturability, ergonomics, etc.
From many PLASTIC headphones I've tested, senn makes one of the best headbands. Also sony is top dog for build quality and finish. Wired headbands are not included in this. Metal bands also proves to be very efficient as well, but looks cheap sometimes.
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08-08-2004, 12:36 AM
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oh man, that 280 looks really really really bad.. hope my one dosn't crack like that :|
heres mine, i put some duct tape over it to stop it cracking any futher but i think i'll send it in as its only going to get worst
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