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07-27-2004, 04:10 PM
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Beyerdynamic Dt 770 pro questions
I was looking into getting the beyerdynamic dt 770 pro because of some great reviews I read on it. I'm going to be using it primarily to record rock music together with synth, most likely on pro tools or MOTU. Does anyone know if these headphones are one of the better ones (for the price range) for mixing that type of music, or am I going to be making a mistake? Also, I have a mackie 808s power mixer and was wondering if when I used these headphones with it, or with Pro tools/MOTU hardware if I would still need an amp (since the headphones are 80 ohms). Thanks
(Also would I be able to run my computer out into my mixer, and have enough power from the mixer to hear my headphones adequately?)
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07-27-2004, 04:23 PM
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The DT770's isolate well, and have strong bass and treble. They're exciting, forward cans. I don't know if that's what you want for recording or if you want something more neutral. If you want exciting, forward headphones that isolate well, these are the cans for you. If that description doesn't fit your needs, you should probably look for some other model.
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07-28-2004, 01:03 AM
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the DT 770 Pros are nice phones indeed. The most bass of any other headphone made, pretty much.
They have something missing though: midrange. There's just none. Although this is coming from a Grado user, so I'm used to a great deal of midrange.
I also found the highs on the Beyers to be a bit shrill, and very sibilant.
They are excellent cans for techno, trance, ambience... but for Rock I just don't think they are great.
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07-28-2004, 01:23 AM
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I am no expert on mixing, but it seems you'd want headphones that showed you the result of your mix as accurately as possible, no? The DT770 is not great in that regard, unless perhaps you EQ it, since the bass and treble are boosted in comparison to the mids. Perhaps the HD600 or DT880 would be a more accurate option, though they are tough to drive, I don't know the output of the gear you mentioned.
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07-28-2004, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer
I am no expert on mixing, but it seems you'd want headphones that showed you the result of your mix as accurately as possible, no? The DT770 is not great in that regard, unless perhaps you EQ it, since the bass and treble are boosted in comparison to the mids. Perhaps the HD600 or DT880 would be a more accurate option, though they are tough to drive, I don't know the output of the gear you mentioned.
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I doubt the HD600's would be ideal for mixing due to their veil (sorry, it's there). I own the HD580's personally and based on what folks have said they basically sound like the HD600's. Going with that, i definitely cannot see myself mixing anything with them because of their wooliness and well, they lack the ability to be analytical (hence, they are not accurate). The Sony V6's (or 7506) would be ideal for mixing, since they are analytical and will pin point out any flaws in the recording. Not sure about the Beyer's, i own them but never used them to listen to any of my live recordings for the purposes of catching flaws, i use my Sony's for that. The Beyer's are used in studio's for recordings sessions, maybe they will work out, they kinda have the same kind of sonic signature as the Sony's, mind you the Beyer's really need a good amp to sound well, otherwise they sound very shrill. Oh, the Beyer's are bass gods of headphones, so that uber bass they output may also hamper your mixing capabilities. Just food for though...
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07-28-2004, 02:26 AM
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The mackie 808s mixer has 1000W of output. I think it splits it 4 ways, which is why it can power 4 250W speakers. Im new to headphones (good ones anyways) so Im not sure how it would work though if I ran my music from my computer into the tape in on the mixer, and then used my headphones from the mixer (whether or not they would have power into them). So hopefully someone knows something about power mixers and how they work with powered headphones. Also, does anyone know if you need an amp when using these headphones with recording hardware? (i.e. digidesign). thanks
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