
03-06-2009, 06:22 PM
|
 |
Headphoneus Supremus
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 5,698
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morph201
Let's put it in perspective... $1700 on cans is like..oh $150,000 on a car..
when you already have other cars in the 30-45,000 range... 
|
Well put.
__________________
Rob
headfi feedback
audiogon feedback
Von Schweikert VR4 jr / AKG K-1000 / Grado HP-2 / Grado GS-1000 Portable - Imod - Xin Supermini III - ALO Cryo mini to mini - Shure E500/Audéo PFE
|

03-06-2009, 07:30 PM
|
 |
100+ Head-Fi'er
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 207
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morph201
Let's put it in perspective... $1700 on cans is like..oh $150,000 on a car..
when you already have other cars in the 30-45,000 range... 
|
Production costs for a $150,000 car will be at least $75,000 while producing the $1700 PS 1000 will cost Grado most certainly less than $250.
|

03-06-2009, 07:59 PM
|
 |
1000+ Head-Fi'er
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: California
Posts: 1,385
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morph201
Let's put it in perspective... $1700 on cans is like..oh $150,000 on a car..
when you already have other cars in the 30-45,000 range... 
|
I would have to say that it is more like around $500,000. The average car is around $30K here in the states. The average headphone is around $50-$100. Divide $100 into the cost of a PS-1K, times that by the average cost of a car and voila! You're driving a Pagani Zonda.
Last edited by Usagi; 03-06-2009 at 08:07 PM.
|

03-06-2009, 08:23 PM
|
 |
Headphoneus Supremus: HeadFest '07 Lead Organizer The DOTU
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 4,004
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by chi2
Production costs for a $150,000 car will be at least $75,000 while producing the $1700 PS 1000 will cost Grado most certainly less than $250. 
|
Where did you pull that number from? I think the Head-Fi scrubber would turn my guess into asterisks, but you don't have any clue how much it costs to produce and you are most definitely off base at that amount.
|

03-06-2009, 09:01 PM
|
 |
500+ Head-Fi'er
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: 13° 28" North, 144° 46" East
Posts: 888
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltron
Where did you pull that number from? I think the Head-Fi scrubber would turn my guess into asterisks, but you don't have any clue how much it costs to produce and you are most definitely off base at that amount.
|
I can guess where the number came from, it rhymes with class.
__________________
My FeedbackMerda taurorum animas conturbit
|

03-07-2009, 12:57 AM
|
 |
1000+ Head-Fi'er
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: California
Posts: 1,385
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snacks
I can guess where the number came from, it rhymes with class. 
|
Just to let you know, I tried my hardest to come up with an appropriate euphemism, but was unsuccessful.
|

03-07-2009, 01:14 AM
|
 |
Headphoneus Supremus
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,524
|
|
Nice looking headphone. Bad plastic block adjusters.
|

03-07-2009, 02:25 AM
|
 |
100+ Head-Fi'er
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: San Francisco bay area
Posts: 489
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morph201
Let's put it in perspective... $1700 on cans is like..oh $150,000 on a car..
when you already have other cars in the 30-45,000 range... 
|
If you look at things that way,spending $95 on a pair of Grado SR80 is also like $1500,000 on a car when you're upgrading from Apple Earbuds. No one would say SR80 are expensive though.I think $1700 is $1700 no matter what you spend it on.
Somehow people have different concept about what's expensive and what's not. For most people,adding thousands on extras when buying a new car is okay, but spending $200 on a pair of headphones is excessive.
I think it's fine to spend $1700 on cans if you can afford it. After all people splash out a lot more on speakers. one or two thousands might not even get you to high end territory if you are talking about amps. To me the issue is not so much about how expensive they are, but how unproven they are. I get excited about PS1000 just like everyone else too but I want to wait for more comments and listen to them before I part with my cash.
__________________
Sources: Garrard 401 /SME IV/Goldring Elite;
Meridian500;OppoDV970HD;Ipodclassic160g;Wadia170iT ransport; Appletv; Squeezebox duet.
DAC: Benchmark DAC1pre;Paradisea+
Headphone amps:CI Audio VHP2 + VAC1; Melos SHA-Gold
Headphones:Sennheiser HD650/cardas cable;Grado GS1000;RS1(2008);RS1(brown headband);HP-1;HF-1;HF-2;Black SR325;SR80;Ultasone Edition9;Ultrasone HFI650;Sony Mdr V6.
|

03-07-2009, 12:09 PM
|
 |
100+ Head-Fi'er
|
|
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 217
|
|
I would rather buy a pair of $1700 headphones, then a $50.000 car. Atleast the headphones keep their value a bit :x
__________________
Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro, Grado SR60
Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi XtremeMusic™
iAudio Cowon S9
FiiO E5
Previously owned:
Sennheiser HD555
|

03-07-2009, 02:01 PM
|
 |
100+ Head-Fi'er
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 207
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltron
Where did you pull that number from? I think the Head-Fi scrubber would turn my guess into asterisks, but you don't have any clue how much it costs to produce and you are most definitely off base at that amount.
|
Well, this was in fact pure speculation – inspired only by looking at the well known headband.
|

03-08-2009, 12:05 PM
|
 |
Headphoneus Supremus ∙ 1/2 hamster, 1/2 Turkish ∙ Blueteething
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Cage
Posts: 19,877
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidhunternyc
Nice looking headphone. Bad plastic block adjusters.
|
At least they're not spray painted silver.
|

03-08-2009, 12:21 PM
|
 |
Headphoneus Supremus
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 2,294
|
|
I presume the expected first delivery date has slipped?
__________________
Current rig: P600/PPP > Marantz CD12/DA12/CD 73/AMR CD77/TW Acustic Raven One with SME IV arm & ZYX Fuji/Provistor & Artemis phonostage/CT7000 > SDS-XLR Accent T (tube p/s)/Earmax Anniversary/Woo Audio WA5-LE > HP1/HP2/RS1/SR325i/HF-1 #96/PS1/PS1 balanced/HD650/GS1000 #120/ATH L3000/PS1000 #144/HF-2 #73
Recorders: Alesis ML9600/Sony JA555ES
Portable: Sony MZ-RH1/Ipod Touch 2G/Iphone 3GS 32GB
My Feedback and here
|

03-08-2009, 12:28 PM
|
 |
Moderator Headphoneus Supremus: President, treasurer, secretary and sole member of the Cayman Islands Head-Fi Club.
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cayman Islands mostly (and wherever the big rig wanders in the US)
Posts: 10,945
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamenthe
Despite the state of the economy, tons of head-fiers are still willing to buy both the HD800s and PS1000s.
|
To be honest, I really don't see it happening with the PS-1000 unless there are a lot of confirming opinions rolling in after more people have heard them (besides Zanth). But yes, I think the HD800 will be a big hit. I'm very doubtful on the PS-1000. My guess is that sales will be quite slow at first. But who knows where it might go from there.
Maybe that's just me, but I see the PS-1000 as merely another one of Grado's spin off products and not something that represents anything new in terms of design, use of technology, or any matter of substance. As a result, I know that I'll sure be reluctant. If ever I do pull the trigger on the PS-1000 it will be because they sound so dang good that I simply can't help myself. But I'll still be grumbling about how Grado managed to grab me by the short and curlies again despite the fact that... oh, nevermind. No sense in getting myself all wound up again.
|

03-08-2009, 02:04 PM
|
 |
100+ Head-Fi'er
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 305
|
|
Does anyone else have a problem with Grados sticking your head? I have a pair of 225 that I retired because I couldn't listen to them to whilst reclined. They fall right off!
|

03-08-2009, 05:41 PM
|
 |
100+ Head-Fi'er
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland
Posts: 172
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by lowmagnet
Does anyone else have a problem with Grados sticking your head? I have a pair of 225 that I retired because I couldn't listen to them to whilst reclined. They fall right off!
|
Head too small?
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4 Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Head-Fi.org
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 12:56 PM. |
|
|