05-28-2009, 12:57 PM
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Todd, after/during CanJam, will you be saying how many HF-2 will be made? Or will it remain a secret till the sells finish?
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05-28-2009, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullseye
Todd, after/during CanJam, will you be saying how many HF-2 will be made? Or will it remain a secret till the sells finish?
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There's no way to know and there is no secret. When the sales start to slip the production will cease. Only then will we know the number.
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05-29-2009, 06:26 AM
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Will the production of HF-2's decrease the value of the limited amount of HF-1's?
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05-29-2009, 10:28 AM
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Will the production of HF-2's decrease the value of the limited amount of HF-1's?
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Hard to say. More HF-# phones could increase the supply (for folks just looking for a HF-# (any #) phone, and potentially decrease the price they'd be willing to pay for one. On the other hand, now that there's an HF-2, there could be a premium on having a complete set, which could drive up the price of HF-1 phones for the folks buying HF-2 who now might be very motivated to add an HF-1 and who might not have previously been looking to buy an HF-1. The release of a limited number of HF-2's can have market effects in both directions on the perceived value and selling price of an HF-1 for different buyers, depending on their interest. I'm going to take a guess that the HF-2, in raising the visibility and interest in the HF phones in general (as well as in getting some "collect the set" interest going), will increase the selling price of the HF-1's in existence. Such a guess is a purely academic exercize for me, though, because I have no HF-1, the value over which to be concerned.
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05-29-2009, 10:59 AM
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There's no way to know and there is no secret. When the sales start to slip the production will cease. Only then will we know the number.
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It may also be based on the date, since I am sure ttvj and grado set a time where they will eventually stop selling.
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05-29-2009, 03:32 PM
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The HF2 made MY HF1 go up in value, because it raises how much I'd have to get for the set to be willing to sell. 
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05-29-2009, 04:35 PM
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Hard to say. More HF-# phones could increase the supply (for folks just looking for a HF-# (any #) phone, and potentially decrease the price they'd be willing to pay for one. On the other hand, now that there's an HF-2, there could be a premium on having a complete set, which could drive up the price of HF-1 phones for the folks buying HF-2 who now might be very motivated to add an HF-1 and who might not have previously been looking to buy an HF-1. The release of a limited number of HF-2's can have market effects in both directions on the perceived value and selling price of an HF-1 for different buyers, depending on their interest. I'm going to take a guess that the HF-2, in raising the visibility and interest in the HF phones in general (as well as in getting some "collect the set" interest going), will increase the selling price of the HF-1's in existence. Such a guess is a purely academic exercize for me, though, because I have no HF-1, the value over which to be concerned.
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Interesting, valid points.
I tend think that whenever any product becomes part of a "product line", meaning newer models are released concurrently, it increases the worth of the "first" or "original" model, even if the later models are of higher quality.
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05-30-2009, 01:27 PM
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Will the production of HF-2's decrease the value of the limited amount of HF-1's?
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The priced of used gear is heavily dependent on supply vs. demand. Demand for used HF-1s has got to decline because of the HF-2.
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05-30-2009, 03:37 PM
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And the final hours of the HF-2 unveiling countdown ...
Two and a half hours to go until CanJam 09 officially opens in LA at 10 AM (Pacific Time) and the HF-2 is unveiled. I hope that we get some pics and initial listening impressions posted pretty soon after that.
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05-30-2009, 03:58 PM
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Oh boy, oh boy oh boy
The wait is killing me... 
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05-30-2009, 04:11 PM
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The HF2 made MY HF1 go up in value, because it raises how much I'd have to get for the set to be willing to sell. |
I agree. I wish we could get the same seriel number but in talking with Todd, I don't think that will happen.
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05-30-2009, 04:26 PM
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I agree. I wish we could get the same seriel number but in talking with Todd, I don't think that will happen.
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you might be able to trade your hf2 with someone who has the hf2 with the serial number you're looking for...that would be quite a pair to have same serial no. hf1/hf2! why did i sell my hf1 again? oh, yeah, something about a k1000
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05-30-2009, 05:44 PM
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On average, what are the used HF-1's going for now?
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05-30-2009, 06:12 PM
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05-30-2009, 06:12 PM
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WOOOW, check on TTVJ site. Pictures of the headphones are now online!
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