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Old 07-18-2008, 07:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by donunus View Post
So question about the 650 replacement cable. does it improve anything else more than adding bass and highs?
Layering and detail were the big improvements between HD650 and APS cable, although the APS cable did add highs and bass over the lousy HD600 cable in addition to the layering and detail.

Remember, in this review I was comparing the HD650 cable and the APS cable both as upgrades over the stock HD600 cable on my HD600.
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So comparing the stock 600 cables to the 650 cable for mids and layering, you would say there is practically no improvement then?
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Moving from the HD600 cable (on my HD600) to the HD650 cable, there was a little improvement in layering and detail but not much - it didn't fix the problem with smearing of layers like the APS V3 cable did.

I have heard other cables at different times that also fix the smearing, such as the ALO Jenna Labs cryo cable (which I find no faults with), and the Moon Audio Silver Dragon (which did not give all the bass gains of the other two cables).
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I just did a very brief a/b with the stock and 650 cable upon reading this review, and I do hear a bit more smearing in the HD600 cable, and symbols seem more controlled on the 650 cable, and theres more low end, but the differences are pretty small. Last time I A/B'ed the cables I recall the 650 cable being darker than the HD600 cable though, I couldn't quite sense it this time. I'll have to recheck that later today.
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I just did a very brief a/b with the stock and 650 cable upon reading this review, and I do hear a bit more smearing in the HD600 cable, and symbols seem more controlled on the 650 cable, and theres more low end, but the differences are pretty small. Last time I A/B'ed the cables I recall the 650 cable being darker than the HD600 cable though, I couldn't quite sense it this time. I'll have to recheck that later today.
Cool, keep us posted.
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I now have the equinox cables and they are a great step up compared to the stock cable. The main thing these cables do compared with stock is that it just takes out the subdued nature of the stock cable and adds an edge and detail to the overall sound. sounds have more flesh and bone to them. metals are a little more metallic instead of being overly airy. Bass is tighter and more defined. They take away from that blurred sound everyone keeps talking about. I thought this was a problem of politeness with my gilmore lite amp. turns out the cable upgrade gave me what I needed. It gave me back that edge my audiolab amp was giving to the hd600s with stock cable but this time with everything else more neutral. The audiolab amp colored the cans a little too much. The cables seem to just bring out what more of what these hd600s can do.
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I now have the equinox cables and they ... seem to just bring out what more of what these hd600s can do.
You realize this is an APureSound vs stock HD600/650 cable thread right?
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