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06-17-2008, 08:15 PM
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Well, I think you missed the point completely.
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No, you made your point poorly.
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If you do not feel IeGO's cable being any good, by all means don't get it.
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I'd just love to hear some actual responses to the questions that have been asked, instead of defaulting to "I don't want to get into the tech talk and bore everyone" or some useless car analogy.
There's thousands of people, if not tens of thousands, that will flatly tell you that wearing magnets has helped their joint problems. They 100% believe it.
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06-17-2008, 08:21 PM
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No, you made your point poorly.
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actually, you missed the line below completely, even tho you have quoted it.
Laser will say both goes just as fast in drag strips, but I think you know the rest when the car start to put a little G forces on the driver.
G forces, see...
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I'd just love to hear some actual responses to the questions that have been asked, instead of defaulting to "I don't want to get into the tech talk and bore everyone" or some useless car analogy.
There's thousands of people, if not tens of thousands, that will flatly tell you that wearing magnets has helped their joint problems. They 100% believe it.
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The information is provided, like I said, if you do not wish to dig deeper and find out the details, I can't help you either. Unlike magnet sticker, it is a lot easier to test power cables or other cables on stereo systems.
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06-17-2008, 08:42 PM
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The information is provided, like I said, if you do not wish to dig deeper and find out the details, I can't help you either.
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No. You have not responded to many, many questions. Instead you've said that you do not wish to fill the thread with boring tech-talk, made poor analogies to cars and I forgot, you've also repeated that the info is there but you can't help us if we won't look at it ourselves. Meanwhile, you've answered none of the questions being presented to you.
If you are unable too, that's fine - just say it.
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06-17-2008, 08:50 PM
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....it's a lot easier to test power cables or other cables on stereo systems.
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Send me your most expensive cord, I'll grab a random neighbor in my apt complex and A/B it against a parasound then have him/her tell me which produces "better" sonics.... I'll send you back the winning cord within thirty days.
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06-25-2008, 09:56 PM
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Impressions of Iego PCs, Comparisons to others???
For those who have bought and auditioned an Iego PC, can you share you listening experiences using it and/or compare with those using other PCs you've used? I'm interested in this PC and would appreciate your impressions of what you've heard using it.
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06-25-2008, 10:12 PM
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If you search around Head-Fi, there are at least two more members who give in-depth reviews of all of IeGO's power cables.
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For those who have bought and auditioned an Iego PC, can you share you listening experiences using it and/or compare with those using other PCs you've used? I'm interested in this PC and would appreciate your impressions of what you've heard using it.
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06-27-2008, 02:39 AM
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I bought one a few months ago, it appeared to be well made. But I wasn't concerned about how it sound compare to my other cable because I was only interested in the sound of the new amp.
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06-27-2008, 03:09 AM
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In a few hours, I'm going to order one, although which of the two "bottom" models I am not sure of yet. The reasons why I'm buying one are: - I want to say I've had first-experience towards this whole "do they make a difference in sound or not" debate, instead of just being a spectator
- It will be a night-and-day quality difference from this old crappy thin black computer cable I found in my garage
- [Oops, Maniac was kind enough to inform me that silver will tarnish faster than copper (duh!), not the other way around. But apparently some think the tarnishing gives it a different sound...huh
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06-27-2008, 03:42 AM
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The cable is pretty flexible for its size.
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06-27-2008, 07:21 AM
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I've got about 140 hours on the (almost) bottom of the line L70530+8065CT IeGO power cord (the one with silver plugs).
It's plugged into my Lavry DA10. It replaces an Iron Lung Jellyfish. It damn near destroyed the AC input on the Lavry when I initially plugged it in -- the people that warn you that this cable's plug is tight aren't kidding.
Initially I could hear a difference between the cables, but it wasn't clear that the IeGO was better -- just different. The fact that I could hear a difference at all was a revelation for me. I wasn't convinced that power cables really could be heard at all and I was prepared to return or sell the cable if it didn't work out.
At about 90 hours of break-in the IeGO sounded about the same as the Jellyfish and my skepticism was returning. Currently (at 140 hours) it definitely sounds better. The soundstage with the Jellyfish is flat compared to the IeGO. The IeGO has much more depth and definition.
Hopefully I've got more improvements headed my way. Even if I don't, I'm keeping the IeGO.
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06-27-2008, 01:54 PM
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My IeGO cord is as fitting as the computer cord I used initially. I had expected it to be tighter but it wasn't. As long as it doesn't fall apart, I'm okay with it. It was one of the cheaper cords I had found. May be it has good value for money.
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06-28-2008, 04:43 PM
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I've got about 140 hours on the (almost) bottom of the line L70530+8065CT IeGO power cord (the one with silver plugs).
It's plugged into my Lavry DA10. It replaces an Iron Lung Jellyfish. It damn near destroyed the AC input on the Lavry when I initially plugged it in -- the people that warn you that this cable's plug is tight aren't kidding.
Initially I could hear a difference between the cables, but it wasn't clear that the IeGO was better -- just different. The fact that I could hear a difference at all was a revelation for me. I wasn't convinced that power cables really could be heard at all and I was prepared to return or sell the cable if it didn't work out.
At about 90 hours of break-in the IeGO sounded about the same as the Jellyfish and my skepticism was returning. Currently (at 140 hours) it definitely sounds better. The soundstage with the Jellyfish is flat compared to the IeGO. The IeGO has much more depth and definition.
Hopefully I've got more improvements headed my way. Even if I don't, I'm keeping the IeGO.
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I feel that if you give it heavier load to run-in the cable, it should show the effect sooner. Since running it on a DAC is actually putting a very light load on a heavy gauge cable, you should be expecting some more changes down the road.
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06-30-2008, 05:31 PM
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I feel that if you give it heavier load to run-in the cable, it should show the effect sooner. Since running it on a DAC is actually putting a very light load on a heavy gauge cable, you should be expecting some more changes down the road. 
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When not listening to the system, I've been running it at relatively high volume with the DAC's built-in headphone amp running. Sure, it will probably take longer to become fully burned-in than it would if I hooked the cord up to my washing machine :-) , but that's ok -- I can wait.
What has been your experience with burn-in times on the cords? How long does it usually take for the cords to stabilize? Other commenters have suggested that it can take a very long time -- 300 to 400 hours. Also, what's your experience with burn-in times under different loads? How much does a heavier load speed things up? Can a load be too light to sufficiently burn-in the cord?
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07-01-2008, 12:56 AM
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IMHO it really depend on the load and what you are running. But even with heavier loads, IeGO's cable still takes quite a while to burn-in. So far I've not heard anyone who isn't able to eventually burn-in the cable (ie getting fairly good results after a few hundred hours of run time), so rest assured that it will burn in eventually, but may take longer on some devices.
I'm in the process of getting a cable burn-in device and evaluate its performance. Previously I use my PS3 running folding at home to burn in cables, but that was getting a bit too noisy :P
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07-01-2008, 05:19 AM
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Thanks for the response. You've got a fine product. Best of luck to you!
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