My cat tore up my Virtual Dynamics Power 3...

[chesebert]

Originally Posted by furball

And VD cables doesn't use off the shelf copper wires?

You honestly think Rick casts his own magical fairy dust copper wires? Or better yet, he casts his own special brew garden hose?

you expended the scope of my post; such a straw man argument.

[furball]

I think if you replace those sand blast pelts with kitty poo, it will sound 100x better. Try it and listen for yourself. Of course no measuresments allowed, it's all in your ears, or in your nose in this case.

Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef

Yes but does it sound better..?

[Acoustic Chef]

Originally Posted by Akathisia

I started this thread and I don't fall into any of those catagories.

People here are got carried away on whether or not cables work, but got back on track. Good job everyone.

This was an accidental discovery. After I cut of the heatshrink and saw the quality of work that went into this $150 cable (oh wait, Chef said the free ones aren't built to the same quality...), I decided to dig a little deeper.

I posted my findings because that's why this forum exists. A few headphone junkies got together to talk about better headphones and be able to share there hobby for high quality, and their disdain for bullsh*t quality and bose-like marketing nonsense.

If I received X headphone from one of the big 5 manufacturers and it was a half-assed build, I would do the exact same thing I did in my first post

You want to know what real BS marketing is? Over priced market hyped pieces slapped together in a cable design that makes no sence what so ever. A cable that has no thought or true understanding to it, but a just a bunch of recognizable brand names..

[markl]

IDK that Iron Lung Jellyfish cable is about $30 and was rated higher than cables more than 10x its price.

And what is that cord? It's a stock off-the-shelf hospital grade cord, not specially made or anything. That's an exception, not the rule.

[philodox]

Originally Posted by furball

And VD cables doesn't use off the shelf copper wires?

Please see my response to chesebert.

Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef

Yes but does it sound better..?

I wasn't addressing the sound, I was addressing the cost and construction. I would not make comments on the sound of the Power 3 without hearing it first.

[gritzcolin]

Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef

We carry exceptional customer service including myself. Just read around.
But the fact is we aren't talking about customers here but rather MOT competitors, skeptics jumping at the opportunity to support them selves and they're beliefs, and people with nothing better to do.

You are missing the point. Don't attack the bad apples if there are any. Only thing it does is makes you look worse than them since you are the one representing the product in question. Plus it isnt reassuring, the build quality came into question and instead of a reason the wires are bent the way the are you say "what do you expect for free" to people who aren't MOT and people who have said they like your cables.

Seems to me it would look better upon VD if you just blocked the punches by answering the questions to the best of your ability and refrained from going on the offensive.

Also are they UL listed? It is a legitimate question that has been asked 20 times and I haven't seen an answer unless I missed it.

[Dorito123]

Originally Posted by gritzcolin

You are missing the point. Don't attack the bad apples if there are any. Only thing it does is makes you look worse than them since you are the one representing the product in question. Plus it isnt reassuring, the build quality came into question and instead of a reason the wires are bent the way the are you say "what do you expect for free" to people who aren't MOT and people who have said they like your cables.

Seems to me it would look better upon VD if you just blocked the punches by answering the questions to the best of your ability and refrained from going on the offensive.

Also are they UL listed? It is a legitimate question that has been asked 20 times and I haven't seen an answer unless I missed it.

x2

[gritzcolin]

Originally Posted by markl

And what is that cord? It's a stock off-the-shelf hospital grade cord, not specially made or anything. That's an exception, not the rule.

Oh well I was just saying that cause of the $150 being the basement of power cable costs. I might go buy some of those actually.

[chesebert]

Originally Posted by philodox

There is detailed info on VH audio about their cable recipies in case you want to DIY them. I believe it is custom wire that they themselves sell.

As for signal cable, it is possible I suppose, but I doubt it. Their cables are hand made, but they manage to get by without hot glue as far as I can tell...

maybe we should define 'hand made', 'custom', 'recipe', and 'cable'.

Is 'Cable' defined as actual cable? or Is 'cable' the finished cable, which is defined as actual cable + any cosmetic elements + the connectors?

Is 'hand made' defined as the construction of 'finished cable' by hand or the construction of 'actual cable' by hand? or a person actuated some lever on a machine that made the cable?

Is custom defined as 'made to the specification of 1 particular cable maker' or 'made in small runs for a particular purpose, e.g. audio'?

Is recipe defined as recipe for actual cable or the recipe for finished cable. And whose recipe is it? what does it mean by 'their recipe'? Is 'their' their supplier or is 'their' the company?

[Acoustic Chef]

Do you really want to know what a hospital grade cable is? It's simply cable that has its male nickel plated so when they wash the walls, solution won't drip and corrode the terminates.
Now how conductive is nickel?

Originally Posted by philodox

There is detailed info on VH audio about their cable recipies in case you want to DIY them. I believe it is custom wire that they themselves sell.

As for signal cable, it is possible I suppose, but I doubt it. Their cables are hand made, but they manage to get by without hot glue as far as I can tell...

If you would rather not have the ends potted with glue, this can be done if you have some kind of phobia to the stuff? But I warn you, you'll only be taking away from its durability.

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by FallenAngel

I highly doubt any small audio company actually has their cables certified.

I wouldn't recommend using anything that isn't UL listed, and I doubt that any homeowners insurance company would disagree with me.

See ya
Steve

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef

Our cables are rigorously tested. The comment was regarding irrelevant cosmetic issues.

Are your cables UL listed? You have been asked several times, and you don't answer. ARE YOUR CABLES UL LISTED?

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by markl

Again, the irony of ironies is that the folks who feign shock and awe are the same ones who claim that power cables make no difference anyway. Yet they complain that there aren't diamonds and rubies inside to justify the cost, when absolutely nothing inside would justify the cost in their eyes.

If you're referring to me, you aren't reading what I'm writing. So far, we've had a misstatement of what sort of connectors were used, an admission that the giveaway cables were not up to the standards of the retail ones, and avoidance of the question of whether the product is UL listed. The issue here is business standards, not performance. I think all of us knows how this jerry rigged contraption would perform.

See ya
Steve

[OverlordXenu]

Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef

You want to know what real BS marketing is? Over priced market hyped pieces slapped together in a cable design that makes no since what so ever. A cable that has no thought or true understanding to it, but a just a bunch of recognizable brand names..

You mean yours?

[gritzcolin]

Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef

Do you really want to know what a hospital grade cable is? It's cable that has its male nickel plated so when they wash the walls, solution won't drip and corrode the terminates.
Now how conductive is nickel?

Not as conductive as copper but it also doesn't corrode like copper and I will be damned if I am paying money for something that is supposed to improve SQ and have to sand it to keeps its conductivity at prime levels.

So are your cables UL listed? We still have no answer.