Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum)Discussion of cables, power (the electric kind), tweaks, & accessories. I, Objectivist: The Objectivist Audio
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Getting a discount for multiple purchases, group buys, combined shipping discounts, etc., are different from a company setting one particular person up to get credits for getting someone to make a purchase. Those are commissions, no matter how much someone wants to spin it otherwise. I even consider them commissions when anyone who does a referral gets them. And there is nothing wrong with running a business that way.
I agree with Grizzlepaw that giving credit for referrals means that the person believes in the product. But it is still a commission.
IMO people who are getting commissions of any type, in an ongoing relationship, ie not one time only, are MOTs.
I'm going to respectfully offer a little blunt advice. Keep out of this. Your opinion as to what is ethical and what isn't is totally irrelevant because you are directly involved here. Your company has shot itself in the foot a hundred different times in this thread already. We've all read the posts. You'd be wise to keep your comments on this to yourself. It's astounding that you think you still have something to say here. How deep do you want to dig the hole?
Last time I purchased an amp from RSA, I mentioned I would be looking at purchasing one for my son in law in the near future.
If you are suggesting someone else spend their own money on a product, and you benefit materially from the sale, either through cash or credit, you are operating on a commission basis. If you are receiving a discount on your own order, and no one else's money is involved, you are the consumer, not the salesman.
I'm going to respectfully offer a little blunt advice. Keep out of this. Your opinion as to what is ethical and what isn't is totally irrelevant because you are directly involved here. Your company has shot itself in the foot a hundred different times in this thread already. We've all read the posts. You'd be wise to keep your comments on this to yourself. It's astounding that you think you still have something to say here. How deep do you want to dig the hole?
See ya
Steve
I dunno. Do you remember how deep we buried the natural gas line?
Or am I misunderstanding the situation here? I must have mislaid the manila envelopes that we put our cash payouts in, because I can't seem to find them right at the moment.
If you are suggesting someone else spend their own money on a product, and you benefit materially from the sale, either through cash or credit, you are operating on a commission basis. If you are receiving a discount on your own order, and no one else's money is involved, you are the consumer, not the salesman.
See ya
Steve
Wow! Trying to catch up on what is happening in this thread - way too much to read!!
Since the ethical behaviour of members in this forum have been questioned and some labelled "shills" I feel compelled to add my 2 cents by asking a question of bigshot. I do so in the interests of fairness to members where their integrity has been challenged.
Steve, on this very forum, in a thread discussing the value of historical classical recordings, you championed their value and provided links to a site selling them. You did not mention you were the owner of this site, and presumably make money from sales there, until it was picked up by another member.
How is your behaviour different from what is happening here?
Mechanical dampening in the power three, and all our cables, makes a clear difference.
How many times is Virtual Dynamics going to be permitted to violate the Terms of Service? Like this one:
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Originally Posted by Terms of Service
A Member of the Trade may not review (or make any subjective assessments of) his or her services and/or products he or she manufacturers, represents, sells.
Steve, on this very forum, in a thread discussing the value of historical classical recordings, you championed their value and provided links to a site selling them. You did not mention you were the owner of this site, and presumably make money from sales there, until it was picked up by another member.
How is your behaviour different from what is happening here?
Can you provide a link to that post? I'd be interested in seeing what that site has to sell.
Though if that is the thread he is referring to, his statement, "You did not mention you were the owner of this site ... until it was picked up by another member" is inaccurate. Bunnyears comments in post 73 of that thread that BigShot's remarks regarding certain historic recordings are biased because BigShot is selling those recordings, but it was quite clear from the earlier posts in the thread (including BigShot's own posts) that the site is BigShot's site. For example, in posts 24 and 68, BigShot discussed the process he used to capture some of those recordings.
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