My cat tore up my Virtual Dynamics Power 3...

[Grizzlepaw]

Originally Posted by Grizzlepaw

I just thought I would draw moderator attention to this post.

Definitely neither accurate nor cool...

-Brad

Thought that I might need to clarify on this post. What I was referring to that was neither accurate nor cool was his claim that Matthew Carter was still trolling this forum.

I will freely admit that from time to time we will offer someone like Bigshot an opportunity to try the product that he venemously calls out, because we have a lot of confidence that once he hears the product that his tone will at least be moderated about it.

It does make a difference in systems, and that difference is almost always positive.

I'm dangerously close to making a straw-man of his position here, but I'm gonna guess that Bigshot has a lot of experience with "High End" products that honestly do not make a significant and positive difference in the end audible result. I doubt, however, if he has any direct experience with Virtual Dynamics.

Also, in the interests of accuracy, my educational background is in documentary film-making, and I have some experience in the field of marketing (most of it from working at this job.) I have never sold a cable in my life, though I do take pictures and write ad copy.

I am not a salesman. :-)

-Brad

[IPodPJ]

Originally Posted by Budgie

I think this is relevant to this thread-
The Joy of Tech comic... laughter is the best tech support.

(not a reflection of my beliefs, so hold the flames please!!! Just try'n to light'n the mood abit)

Very cute. It gave me a smile.

[bigshot]

Here are my constructive suggestions.

It's simple to convince me to consider your product. If you want me to try it out, provide objective testing that indicates a significant improvement... for instance an independently conducted double blind test of your cable against a range of low, medium and high end competitors.

Then, once you have objectively proved the superiority of your product, test to find out exactly why it works the way it does, measure the degree of improvement, and explain all of that to me clearly without exaggeration or sales pitch.

You're not going to convince me by seeding the forum with lots of subjective anecdotal opinions that describe sound in poetic vague terms and have no scientific explanation for what they observe. Your marketing campaign of providing freebee cables in exchange for reviews makes me totally suspicious of the validity of any reviews I see of your product, because of the lack of disclosure of the relationship between your company and the individual reviewers . A 90 day no questions asked money back guarantee is a much better way to allow people to try the products than throwing freebees around. And a hands off approach to reviewers will make me put more credence in what I hear about your products on this forum.

You have a bit of a public relations job to do though. The people way the official representatives of VD on this forum have behaved in the past have pretty much made me write your whole company off. Pricing your products in line with normal business markups of consumer products would help too.

See ya
Steve

[IPodPJ]

Originally Posted by bigshot

The bigger problem is, how can we trust the reviews of other posters if they're receiving "free gifts" as a "courtesy" to "help" them write [positive] reviews of the product. This is basically an attempt to plant shills in the board, and it seems to be working. Many of the positive reviews of VD products in this group appear to be from people who never paid for the wires they're reviewing.

See ya
Steve

Well perhaps you should read a bunch of my posts and know that this certainly does not happen, at least not by me. I have made clear to the staff at VD "I do not kiss ass" and "I always praise a product or company when it deserves praise and condemn it when it deserves condemnation" and they have received both from me, publically and privately.

On the other hand, you like to knock a product when you haven't even listened to it and that makes you ignorant in the extreme. Your opinions on the sound quality of a VD cable are meaningless if you have not heard one in your own system. In fact, I'm not even sure if you have a passion for audio. If you did, you would be willing to try any product that could potentially make a difference. And with all the people here saying their products DO make a difference, it's ignorant of you to not try one out; you'd just rather be obstinate and argumentative.

[bigshot]

I admire your stated intention to "call them like you see them". But I'd prefer to have objective information from independent sources. You can call me ignorant for sticking to that if you want, but for my own purposes, I'd rather know that the person whose word I am taking isn't on the take himself.

See ya
Steve

[IPodPJ]

Originally Posted by bigshot

I admire your stated intention to "call them like you see them". But I'd prefer to have objective information from independent sources. You can call me ignorant for sticking to that if you want, but for my own purposes, I'd rather know that the person whose word I am taking isn't on the take himself.

See ya
Steve

No one suggests you take anyones word. But to not try a product that might be a benefit to your audio system is just plain silly. Discover firsthand for yourself if it's all hype.

Their cables and moreso their power cords are superb. Their company policies leave much to be desired. It's as simple as that.

Companies like Shunyata and Synergistic Research make excellent cables, too! But from personal experience with all of the above (and more), Virtual Dynamics makes the best power cords.

[JohnFerrier]

Come on Steve, choose a power cable...

A. $10.44 Volex 14 gauge shielded power cable sold at Newark.

B. $300.00 Virtual Dynamics Power 3, (14 gauge, no shield).




.

[meat01]

I'll take choice A. for $10.44 John. Thanks!

[bigshot]

Originally Posted by IPodPJ

No one suggests you take anyones word. But to not try a product that might be a benefit to your audio system is just plain silly. Discover firsthand for yourself if it's all hype.

There's no evidence that a fancy power cable would improve my system other than subjective anecdotal reports from people who may or may not have received free merchandise in exchange for their review. I have much more important things to do with my time than to chase down things like that.

That's a moot point though, because I wouldn't plug a non-UL listed power cord into my wall socket anyway. I'm not going to risk losing everything in a house fire.

See ya
Steve

[Patrick82]

Originally Posted by bigshot

There's no evidence that a fancy power cable would improve my system other than subjective anecdotal reports from people who may or may not have received free merchandise in exchange for their review.

I paid for my Genesis.

Originally Posted by bigshot

I have much more important things to do with my time than to chase down things like that.

But you have time to make 5000+ posts about cables being snake-oil?

Originally Posted by bigshot

That's a moot point though, because I wouldn't plug a non-UL listed power cord into my wall socket anyway. I'm not going to risk losing everything in a house fire.

I would never buy UL listed power cords because I don't want to pay more money for something that doesn't improve the sound at all...it is snake-oil, there is something wrong with the skeptics.