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Old 02-05-2008, 05:10 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Defend them to the end... Its a cheap-*** piece of housing wiring put in a garden hose to make it appear thicker then it is wrapped in some techflex to make it pretty and sold for $150. This is clearly a genius implementation. What the hell is wrong with you? The only thing you are hearing is "Virtual Dynamics" written on the cable and their marketing BS.
I'm not defending anyone, buddy. If you only knew the conversation I had with our VD rep today... But people like you dont care to praise the good when it's good. I, on the other hand, will praise a company for a product that is good but come down just as hard on them when there is a problem with it. If you've seen my posts lately you would know that. People like you just like finding fault with a product when you haven't even tried one or own one. You jump on the "cable skeptics" bandwagon and find any thread you can possibly join for the sole purpose of attacking a company and their products to make yourself appear "cool" to the cable-bashing in-crowd. Yes, we all know their marketing strategy and choice of words are a little misplaced. But they also have some of the best audio cables and cords on the market and if you actually had one you would know that.
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I think you should test it out anyway and see if it makes a difference to your system.

Maybe that metal powder is MAGIC FAIRY DUST that AUTOMAGICALY makes everything better?
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I think you should test it out anyway and see if it makes a difference to your system.

Maybe that metal powder is MAGIC FAIRY DUST that AUTOMAGICALY makes everything better?
Hmm... maybe it actually could be by acting as an RFI/EMI shield and raising the dielectric properties of the cable. Who knows, there could be something to it.
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I'm not defending anyone, buddy. If you only knew the conversation I had with our VD rep today... But people like you dont care to praise the good when it's good. I, on the other hand, will praise a company for a product that is good but come down just as hard on them when there is a problem with it. If you've seen my posts lately you would know that. People like you just like finding fault with a product when you haven't even tried one or own one. You jump on the "cable skeptics" bandwagon and find any thread you can possibly join for the sole purpose of attacking a company and their products to make yourself appear "cool" to the cable-bashing in-crowd. Yes, we all know their marketing strategy and choice of words are a little misplaced. But they also have some of the best audio cables and cords on the market and if you actually had one you would know that.
Problem is, you have not ever had a problem with any of their products (as far as I know). They could literally hand you a coathanger in a garden hose with their logo on it and you would praise it. That and the fact the VD straight up lies to people and you brush it off as nothing. At least Signal Cable (not that I even support Signal Cable) has products that they could actually stand behind and dont use hot glue, electric tape and garden hose. Sure they aren't as pretty on the outside, but they are nicer on the inside. All you see is the pretty outside and the pretty website and the pretty words like ProtecX and LiniPur.

Does it matter at all that the laws of physics are on the "cable skeptics" side? Its not even a matter of "skepticism", its certainty.
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I just got one of the Power 3 give aways as well and i am happy with it. Even if the build quality isn't anything impressive the difference it makes in my system is impressive. So what if it isn't using the best parts, sound is subjective and is down to the individual. Just cause a Ferrari is $200,000 doesn't mean a $65,000 corvette Z06 can't keep up with it. Just cause you go buy cost and cost of components used, and build quality doesn't mean anything in terms of sheer results. I think the cable sounds good and does its job so who cares if it is using $20 worth of supplies they figured out a way to make that sound good.
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Does it matter at all that the laws of physics are on the "cable skeptics" side? Its not even a matter of "skepticism", its certainty.
Oh certainty you say? Laws of physics you say? You mind explaining to me what you know about electrons? You must know more than the quantum physicists who don't even know why electrons behave the way they do. You must know why they've observed single electrons in 5 places at once. For you to speak of such certainty, you must know something even they don't. Perhaps because you hold all the keys to the hidden doors, you should change your screen name from ColonelKernel to Master Of The Universe.

I just learned last night from NASA's website that electrons don't move more than 20cm/second. They bump other electrons out of the way, on down the line just like those little novelties you keep on your desk with the 5 steel balls suspended from wire (I probably learned this when I was in grade school but have long since forgot). Knowing this, how can you say that certain audio cables and power cords won't conduct electricity more efficiently, as well as acting as line filters?
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Oh certainty you say? Laws of physics you say? You mind explaining to me what you know about electrons? You must know more than the quantum physicists who don't even know why electrons behave the way they do. You must know why they've observed single electrons in 5 places at once. For you to speak of such certainty, you must know something even they don't.

I just learned last night from NASA's website that electrons don't move more than 20cm/second. They bump other electrons out of the way, on down the line just like those little novelties you keep on your desk with the 5 steel balls suspended from wire (I probably learned this when I was in grade school but have long since forgot). Knowing this, how can you say that certain audio cables and power cords won't conduct electricity more efficiently, as well as acting as line filters?
Right, I suppose Rick Schultz does know all that our scientists don't, considering he probably has an MBA. How can you tell if a product is improving anything if you don't have a basis on which you test and measure it? Much less develop it.
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Right, I suppose Rick Schultz does know all that our scientists don't, considering he probably has an MBA. How can you tell if a product is improving anything if you don't have a basis on which you test and measure it? Much less develop it.
Who cares what a meter or computer tells you about anything. My Ears are the only instrument i trust when it comes down to sound. Your are telling me if you switch from one speaker to another you can't hear a difference without a meter or computer telling you there is one? Or if you switch a cable you have to see a difference on paper for there to actually be one? Sorry but i go by what i hear.
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Who cares what a meter or computer tells you about anything. My Ears are the only instrument i trust when it comes down to sound. Your are telling me if you switch from one speaker to another you can't hear a difference without a meter or computer telling you there is one? Or if you switch a cable you have to see a difference on paper for there to actually be one? Sorry but i go by what i hear.
No, because speakers actually make a very audible and very measurable difference.
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