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Old 03-24-2008, 10:18 PM   #481 (permalink)
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Just to show you how some people overrate some cables (monster cables anyone?)
Hey, troll of 2 posts, I am not discussing the Power 3 (bottom of the line), but the Genesis, the top of the line. You haven't seen it or held it, or installed it or listened to it (or other cables of similar price tag), so you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

BTW, everyone who knows anything about cables (excludes you) knows Monster cables are the Bose of cables. All marketing, no performance. Abominable build quality, just open one up and take a lokk at the soldering job the 12 year old slave did.
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:35 PM   #482 (permalink)
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If I may reply for him: well, for the benefit of people such as cyanbomb (the poster above you), who was alerted to this thread because it was revived and that probably saved him/her a lot of grief.
And if cyanbomb had gotten his cables and actually was happy with them, then he would have just been called naive and told that he didn't deserve to have enough money to purchase them.

It doesn't help anyone to call someone naive and worth less then a cable IMO. Let a search function handle those who actually research cables, but for those who you might think are naive, the battle against naivety in this world could be better served elsewhere. Start a webpage about these things and put it in your signature for all I care, but we can stop the worthless crap throwing when no one was bothering to defend any longer. That was pure trolling in the worst way, sounded like he was desperately seeking an ego boost today.

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Old 03-24-2008, 10:50 PM   #483 (permalink)
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BTW, everyone who knows anything about cables (excludes you) knows Monster cables are the Bose of cables
You're quite correct in that observation. The primary similarity is that they're both overpriced. There are alternatives that are just as good at a fraction of the cost. Of course, Bose and Monster are just garden variety absurd. The degree of absurdity in cables goes up to the stratosphere along with the price tag.

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Old 03-24-2008, 10:54 PM   #484 (permalink)
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That was pure trolling in the worst way, sounded like he was desperately seeking an ego boost today.
Gizmodo is linking to this thread today. It's likely that it would have been ressurected anyway.

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Old 03-24-2008, 10:57 PM   #485 (permalink)
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Gizmodo is linking to this thread today. It's likely that it would have been ressurected anyway.

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Thanks Steve, I did not know that. I hope that this cable's build does become common knowledge to buyers at least.
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:40 PM   #486 (permalink)
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You're quite correct in that observation. The primary similarity is that they're both overpriced. There are alternatives that are just as good at a fraction of the cost. Of course, Bose and Monster are just garden variety absurd. The degree of absurdity in cables goes up to the stratosphere along with the price tag.

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Genesis power cable gave me more for the price than any other cable I have ever tried. Other cables just add different flavors to the sound, they don't improve the sound like the Genesis does. Even when the Genesis power cable costs more than a car, it's a bargain!
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Even when the Genesis power cable costs more than a car, it's a bargain!
LMFAO! That may just be signature worthy material some day.
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Genesis power cable gave me more for the price than any other cable I have ever tried. Other cables just add different flavors to the sound, they don't improve the sound like the Genesis does. Even when the Genesis power cable costs more than a car, it's a bargain!
Obviously cables are very important, but without proper isolation, anti-resonance and damping, you will never get the resolution you need having spent all that money. Have you considered trying some isolation/damping techniques? Also EMF can be an issue.
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I'm a relative noob compared to all you Headphone Supremes, and I've read this VD thread with a mixture of disbelief (at VD), amazement (at their reply), and disappointment at the way it's turned out.

Most people work hard for their money, and no matter which way you look at it, will be very disappointed in finding that their relatively expensive power cable was PVC bulk wire and a garden hose. Do you see? The sound is no longer the issue (although it should ideally be), and profit margins are no longer the issue either, even if there's truth in the sums. People want to feel like what they paid for was truly worth it, and for almost everyone, the sheer shock of VD's cable construction would be off-putting.

It truly is a case of "Ignorance is bliss." That illusion has been shattered, and the damage is done. Therefore...

The best thing VD could have done is to have said, "Look, this isn't uncommon for cable manufacturers, but all the same, we're sorry, and will look into ways of improving the cosmetic appearance/quality/whatever of our cables." That would have been proper damage control. Unfortunately, what VD did was to offer inane comments, some shockingly unprofessional. Yes, some of what they said held a degree of truth, but didn't actually address the matter at hand: Irate and disappointed Head-fiers. And -that- is what fueled much of the flaming and bad feelings in the thread.

Many people will now give VD cables a miss not merely because of their build quality or material choices, but because of the way the company's representative responded.

We can't force anyone to stop viewing or posting in this thread, and nobody can stop people from posting by arguing logic, like most arguments in life (girlfriend/wife arguments, for example, don't obey any rules of rationale! )
Let it run its course, and let us hope that there are hotter topics to discuss soon!

Hey everyone, case closed okay?
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There's still one last counterclaim open on this case... The fact that this is a power cable that doesn't carry UL certification. Anyone who plugs their valuable equipment into a wall socket of their house deserves that level of guarantee from the manufacturer. I don't care how good it sounds, I don't want my house to burn down and my insurance refuse to cover the loss.

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