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You know something, I have to disagree with this statement even thought it looks so reasonable on the surface. If I attempt to make something and charge myself my rate that I get at my work then everything I have purchase at discounted retail prices is a bargain. Even those so-called over priced cables ever one is talking about. Yea, it is nice if you are not doing anything else, just sitting around doing nothing, having someone else support you like parents or some government program but to think that just building something would result in a bargain is wrong. What is my time worth? A whole lot more than what it would cost me to build a cable equal to one of the items like a Virtual Dynamics David "R" cable for about 300$. How long does it take to go out and get the materials? How much time do I take considering the design features to put into it? Physically how much time does it take to weave a cable into those intricate patterns around a cotton center and then wrap each them them with the appropriate wrapping before finishing it? How about the time it takes to set up a jig so that I could even begin to weave a proper cable? It is all about how much you value your time. This is what determines whether something is a bargain in my book. It would appear that some do not value their time as I do.
No, for me DIY is not a bargain. The bargains are those things that allow me to enjoy my down-time and relax to get ready to enter the world the next day. This is how I determine what is a bargain. Now it would be nice if I was one of those people who could combine those two things but I am not, I don't have that much time. Now that would be a bargain indeed. Maybe after retirement like some people in that commercial about graduation. When asked what was he going to do with his degree, replying he thought that retirement looked good to him.
They test the tolerances. For example the HDMI spec calls for 100 ohm pairs, +/- 10 ohms.
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You know something, I have to disagree with this statement even thought it looks so reasonable on the surface. If I attempt to make something and charge myself my rate that I get at my work then everything I have purchase at discounted retail prices is a bargain. Even those so-called over priced cables ever one is talking about. Yea, it is nice if you are not doing anything else, just sitting around doing nothing, having someone else support you like parents or some government program but to think that just building something would result in a bargain is wrong. What is my time worth? A whole lot more than what it would cost me to build a cable equal to one of the items like a Virtual Dynamics David "R" cable for about 300$. How long does it take to go out and get the materials? How much time do I take considering the design features to put into it? Physically how much time does it take to weave a cable into those intricate patterns around a cotton center and then wrap each them them with the appropriate wrapping before finishing it? How about the time it takes to set up a jig so that I could even begin to weave a proper cable? It is all about how much you value your time. This is what determines whether something is a bargain in my book. It would appear that some do not value their time as I do.
No, for me DIY is not a bargain. The bargains are those things that allow me to enjoy my down-time and relax to get ready to enter the world the next day. This is how I determine what is a bargain. Now it would be nice if I was one of those people who could combine those two things but I am not, I don't have that much time. Now that would be a bargain indeed. Maybe after retirement like some people in that commercial about graduation. When asked what was he going to do with his degree, replying he thought that retirement looked good to him.
You are too expensive. That's why we want to out source your job to China.
You are too expensive. That's why we want to out source your job to China.
Good response....then I would have all the time I needed since you would be helping the government support me in my DIY efforts...Great ideal. I would not have to worry about facing tomorrow ready to do real work getting up a 4 am after having to go to bed something around 8 in the evening.
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Why does this forum feel its necessary to censor the audio "skeptics" true ace in the pocket? DBT, which is essentially the only true means of testing audio equipment .
Because it does. DBT discussions have shown a history of tearing down a thread and causing huge fights.
It's a rule that we need to follow or else post elsewhere.
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This thread makes me happy.
Why would a thread about someone getting their cable annihilated by their cat, make you happy ?
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Because it does. DBT discussions have shown a history of tearing down a thread and causing huge fights.
It's a rule that we need to follow or else post elsewhere.
So do discussions about AKG K701s having no bass, but we don't ban AKG discussions (thank goodness).
It's a bit disingenuous to ban a legitimate (in every other discipline or hobby in the world) testing method just because some people can't handle adult discussions about it.
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Why would a thread about someone getting their cable annihilated by their cat, make you happy ?
Maybe becasue he believes it was the best thing that could happen to it... (that was a JOKE, OK?)
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Proved that despite its huge size, the CD3K can be shoved down one's throat...
And how about now the Ultrasone Edition 9?
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Febs, the sticky clearly states that any mention of DBT testing is not allowed and in OverlordXenu's post it refers to DBT testing of SACD vs. Redbook no matter what the conclusion is, it was mentioned and linked.
Why can someone mention their own informal test results, but they can't cite more carefully done tests? I understand why discussion of methodology is a trouble spot. Some people can't resist grinding discussions of methodology into the ground. But citing the results of "controlled listening tests" is just as valid as citing the results of lab measurements, magazine reviews, or the results of informal A/B comparisons in the home.
It should be fine to refer to a controlled test as a "controlled test" and not debate the fine points of methodology.
That said, I have done extensive comparisons between SACD and redbook myself, and I found that the differences between the two formats were always a result of mastering differences, not the audio reproduction quality of the format itself. Using a Pentatone DSD SACD/CD hybrid, I was able to do direct balanced level A/B comparisons that showed that the two layers sounded identical. This informal test supports the "controlled test" cited above. So the point that there is no audible difference between SACD and redbook stands.
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(that was a JOKE, OK?)
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