Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum)Discussion of cables, power (the electric kind), tweaks, & accessories. I, Objectivist: The Objectivist Audio
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That would be great if the dynamic range were as wide as the PCM1794. A lot of people listen to audio higher than redbook. But it looks like a promising chip.
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Headphones → Denon AH-D5000 (modded)
Amp/Source → Meier Audio Corda Opera ::: Go-Vibe V7 Max Extra ::: ?(DAC)
Transport → ESI Juli@ ::: Vista → Foobar 0.9.5 → EAC extracted PCM → ASIO 2.0 → SSRC@96/Ultra → ESI Juli@ → S/PDIF :::
Power → Virtual Dynamics Master LE 2.0 Power Cord(PC) ::: Virtual Dynamics Power 3(amp) ::: API PowerWedge I
Interconnects → Virtual Dynamics Master LE 2.0 Digital IC ::: Cobalt Cable Ultimate Digital Coax :::::::::::::::::: Cobalt Cable Ultimate Audio Interconnect Pair ::: ALO 6" iPod LOD ::: Qables 15" Silvercab iPod LOD
Portable Source → iPod Classic (6g) 80gig, with Agent18 Hardshell Acrylic Case:::
Accessories → Audio Technica AT-HPS500 Headphone Stand ::: Woo Audio Silver Headphone Stand
Member of the Trade: Rudistor Sound Systems US/Canada Proved that despite its huge size, the CD3000 can be shoved down one's throat.
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I do love the Edition 9, and probably you know what that means, so you have been warned...!!!
Disclaimer: Please assume every single of my statements, to mean: “in my system”, “to my ears”, "in my experience", “in my opinion”, etc...(otherwise stated).
Neutrality, accuracy? OK, just ask yourself first: Do you know for sure how the recording is supposed to sound? So for me euphony is all about!!! Please do yourself a favor, stop listening your gear, and begin to feel the music instead!!!
Home setup: Sony DVP-NC555ES => BJC IC's => RPX-33 MKII/RPX-31 => UE9
"On the go" setup: Panasonic SL-CT570 => FreQ Show ML/Sleek SA6/Klipsch Image X5 and X10
Proved that despite its huge size, the CD3K can be shoved down one's throat...
And how about now the Ultrasone Edition 9?
EQUIPO HEAD-FI HISPANO: DILE ADIOS A TUS AHORROS!!!
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Febs, the sticky clearly states that any mention of DBT testing is not allowed and in OverlordXenu's post it refers to DBT testing of SACD vs. Redbook no matter what the conclusion is, it was mentioned and linked.
I could have deleted the post, but instead, I politely asked him to edit it, and once it was done, I would have removed my post.
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True, and I have PM'd Elrod-Tom for clarification of this because it also states that it is for the cable forum and other forums. It also states:
We do this not because DBT is or is not an legitimate means for decision-making. Rather, in our experience we find that these discussions repeatedly break down rather quickly into nasty circular arguments by competing camps of true believers. We've come to the conclusion that there's no particularly worthwhile end to be served by this line of discussion, and as such we're asking that the membership not engage in it.
Thanks...
Also, if you look up at the top of the page ^ you will see the name of this forum includes:
just out of curiousity Does Matt Carter=Acoustic Chef for sure?
BTW hasn't this thread run it's usefull course at this point having been rerailed to links to a DBT study that the poster apparently did not even read, had he he would have seen his conclusion was not even close to definative.
People all cables have significant mark up and in relation to the actual components in your system do not provide the same dollar for dollar improvement a speaker, headphone, source, amp can provide. But once you have all the peices in place then playing with cables can be a effective way to complete the sound of your system.
Also just for #$%^s and giggles there is no nuetral, it's a term I often refer to for lack of a better word but everything in the audio chain puts it's handprint on the sound (some more audible than others).
Yes this cable reeks of mediocre construction and parts, all you Marxists (BTW I love all my Marxist brothers and Sisters) out there don't get it we live in a market economy. Items are worth what people pay for them not a penny more or less. Do you think the speakers you bought don't have a 100% markup at MSRP? ALso the $500 dollar headphones you just bought also have the same markup (for the most part). I worked in reatil in the 80s and paid landed cost (cost plus supply chain costs) for any item I wanted in the store and my AKGS were about half of retail.
I can not for the life of me understand why cables makers are singled out in this way. Most things are overpriced based on raw cost of components. Look at most of the boutique amps we buy they are marked up to nosebleeding propotions very few mind though. One thing that is certain most of the people equate price with quality and often overlook excellent debateably better products at lower costs simply due to the mental effect of price.
Why does this forum feel its necessary to censor the audio "skeptics" true ace in the pocket? DBT, which is essentially the only true means of testing audio equipment. Because it makes cable believers mad? Unbelievable. Nonsensical "OMG THIS CABLE IS AMAZING, THE DIFFERENCE IS NIGHT AND DAY, THE BACKGROUND IS REALLY BLACK" makes me pretty mad.
That said, I will not continue to travel further down the path speaking about digital, because the $2000 digital cable isn't going to solve the limitations of SP/DIF, it isn't going to do anything but transmit the same old digital signal to your DAC. Also, this thread was more dealing with the shoddy construction of Power 3 cables.
Yes this cable reeks of mediocre construction and parts, all you Marxists (BTW I love all my Marxist brothers and Sisters) out there don't get it we live in a market economy. Items are worth what people pay for them not a penny more or less. Do you think the speakers you bought don't have a 100% markup at MSRP? ALso the $500 dollar headphones you just bought also have the same markup (for the most part). I worked in reatil in the 80s and paid landed cost (cost plus supply chain costs) for any item I wanted in the store and my AKGS were about half of retail.
At least my headphones, CD player, DAC, etc etc were all built well, and weren't straight up lied about in the marketing department. The markups were also more justified given these companies actually perform R&D and have other justified expenses. (At least more justified than VD's expenses, considering they don't actually perform real R&D).
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