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Old 02-05-2008, 11:40 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Fitz View Post
I do not appreciate the suggestion you are making that I would have people shilling for me, especially when I haven't even so much as asked anybody to review my cables.
I'm truly sorry for dragging your name into this mess.
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:56 PM   #212 (permalink)
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Fitz, the point I was making is that it's easy to mistake a happy customer excitedly telling people about their favorite new product for being a paid "shill". That seems to be the assumption among many in this thread being made about anyone who likes VD cables. Look at the accusations flying and the word "shill" being thrown around.

Yet it's ironic to me that these same people who see a shill under every rock have made their own statements here on this board that could read as shilling for another cable manufacturer themselves. I'm just sarcastically throwing back Mr. Xenu's allegations in his face to show how easily this fallacy can happen and how he himself is victim of it.

In other words, if he wants to play that game, let's play that game and look at how his own statements might read to someone else. In the end, I, too, have only your word and his word that there is no relationship. If I was a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nut like some on this board I would make my own assumptions about you two.

But I'm not. Understood?
I only ever called Acoustic Chef a shill, which, ya know, he technically is.
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:56 PM   #213 (permalink)
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People who had to work hard for their money would not buy a $10,000 cable.
Keep diggin! you've got a good sized hole going there.
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Acoustic Chef came by and commented, no one else has come by with concerns about the cable they actually disassembled.
So, what's your point again?
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Do you really want to know what a hospital grade cable is? It's simply cable that has its male nickel plated so when they wash the walls, solution won't drip and corrode the terminates.
Now how conductive is nickel?
Hospital grade is more than that, the cables and terminal have to pass stress and mechanical tests, and power rating tests, they are sometimes prepared for good EMI and RF rejection, as they are supposed to power devices in which a failure will cause a death...Aslo they are UL rated...

It is not only about the nickel, every computer cord is nickel plated and none of them are hospital grade rated

BTW the nickel is not that bad as a conductor, it was used for decades of glory in audio technology....See any vintage amp and see if they use gold plated conectors, or jacks, mainly all of them are nickel plated. And most fo them sound far better than many made nowadays with glorified gold plated terminals, the sound is not on the plated of the jack, I doubt you will hear any difference between a nickel plated and silver plated jack...
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Gah. This has got out of hand.

Gone from 'VD Makes there cables out of cheap materials!' into 'OMG QUICK! Unplug your VD cables before your house burns down!!!' and 'VD is a dodgy company who must die!'. Soon there'll be a mob with torches going to burn down the Virtual Dynamics factory...

Sounds fun.
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He could just show us him building his higher end cables so he/us would be saving money.

I work customer support for a large cellular phone company and would NEVER talk to potential customers like this. If they don't like our services I don't talk to them in a negative tone or anything.

I got to admit though, looks like a nice DIY cable!

HMM, maybe I should just get some techflex and some water line and cover my existing UL approved power cable for my computer and drop some sawdust (better for isolating those vibrations and heat from reaching the cable...) in there.

BONUS!!! It is now a woody cable!!! So warm sounding!!!!

I am now selling these woody cables, if anyone wants to buy one they can PM me, beware, I didn't have any net jacket rolling around so they are EXTREEEEME Green and Yellow right now (just what I had literally around the house in the back yard). They are filled with ONLY the BEST wood that I found in my garage. I hope they don't notice the washer not working, I cut the cord off of it to make the ELITEE1337 PUR KOPP3R wiring.

I spray painted the connectors gold with platinum tips for THE BEST CONDUKTIVITY!!!!!
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Old 02-06-2008, 01:37 AM   #218 (permalink)
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Of course that is not applicable to all the cases we see, and mainly the majority of the portable amps we see nowadays are just glorified C-Moy's...
So, you state the majority of the portable amps we see nowadays are just glorified C-Moy's ....

So you are agreeing with me?

That is exactly my point. Many portables have $40-50 parts in them, maybe less .... and sell for $300-$350. I bought a Pint for $110 shipped that was definitely better than the highly touted "name" portables I had heard costing $300+ .... and the Pint's builder obviously made money.
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Originally Posted by MontyPythizzle View Post
I am now selling these woody cables, if anyone wants to buy one they can PM me, beware, I didn't have any net jacket rolling around so they are EXTREEEEME Green and Yellow right now (just what I had literally around the house in the back yard). They are filled with ONLY the BEST wood that I found in my garage. I hope they don't notice the washer not working, I cut the cord off of it to make the ELITEE1337 PUR KOPP3R wiring.

I spray painted the connectors gold with platinum tips for THE BEST CONDUKTIVITY!!!!!
I was skeptical until you turned on caps lock. Now I'll buy 10!

this is my favorite thread ever.
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Not to answer for him, but if you look at who they're hiring even right now, you'll see it's not one guy in his basement.
That wasn't what I was getting at, and understand that I'm not criticizing you for the way you've handled your reviewing. You haven't done anything wrong at all. My concern is that if manufacturers are giving you equipment to review on Head-Fi, they may be giving free equipment to other people whose standards of disclosure might not be as forthcoming as yours. Head-Fi has a very good policy when it comes to identifying representatives of companies, and it would be very bad for the community here if some less than honest companies tried to circumvent that policy by setting up shill posters.

Advertisements should be advertisements. Reviews should be reviews. The reason hifi magazines suck so bad today is because those two things haven't been kept separate. I'd hate to see that happen to this forum.

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More often than not, I get sent gear by other members just to find out what I think of this headphone or that amp.
That is entirely different than a manufacturer lending or giving away equipment. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Thanks for your honesty
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