Support Head-Fi.org by starting all of your Amazon.com shopping by clicking here.
____________________________________________________________________
Today's Featured Head-Fi Blog:  Jude's Blog
____________________________________________________________________
Please help support Head-Fi by becoming a Contributing Member  CLICK HERE

-- Contributing Members, thank you for your generous support! --
Head-Fi Is Sponsored By:
Register FAQ Blogs Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Today's Posts Search
 

Head-Fi's Sponsors
(Premier Sponsors bolded)

Featured

2008 International
Head-Fi Meet
(Can Jam '08)
Impressions,
Reviews, Photos


Can Jam '08 graphic
courtesy of Edwood

Click on the links below
for Can Jam '08 photos,
impressions and reviews:


NightWoundsTime
lan
agile_one
wavoman
crappyjones123
Luke G
bperboy
jimaxp

 


Can Jam '08 Logo
T-Shirts For Sale


Head-Fi Blogs
and Facebook

Check out Head-Fi's new
Blogs section.

Featured Head-Fi Blogs:

Jude's "Take My Word"

 From Japan - by Sasaki

 LFF's Blog

(
Start your own Blog!)

Attention
Facebook Users



Join the official
Head-Fi.org
Facebook Group


Head-Fi's Sponsors
(Premier Sponsors bolded)

Featured


Go Back   Head-Fi: Covering Headphones, Earphones and Portable Audio > Equipment Forums > Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum)

Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum) Discussion of cables, power (the electric kind), tweaks, & accessories.

Meier Audio CORDA HEADSIX & The Most Recent Sponsored Threads

Celebrating 6 years of Head-Fi, Meier Audio introduces the Limited Edition HEADSIX (portable headphone amp) Head-Fi Support Sales Action




 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-05-2008, 03:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
500+ Head-Fi'er

Profile
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Lackland AFB, TX
Posts: 622
Default

Originally Posted by troymadison View Post
love your cat btw
Haha thanks. He feels like a rock star now that he's on the internet

Anyway, I just checked on Virtual Dynamics' website, and it states that the Power 3 uses "LiniPur Conductors". LiniPur can also be called :

E70347 F 14 AWG 12.08MM THHN or THHN-2 Copper Wire

12 and 14 Gauge THHN House Wire Product Info and Reviews | DoItYourself.com
__________________
My feedback : Head-Fi , eBαγ , Audiogon
Akathisia is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2008, 03:20 AM   #12 (permalink)
500+ Head-Fi'er

Profile
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Lackland AFB, TX
Posts: 622
Default

Originally Posted by gz76 View Post
I don't know... when you look at the material costs, it seems one sided, but when you factor in labour, marketing, R&D, market demand, and other business costs (as you would if you were seriously trying to keep a business running), it doesn't seem so bad. I just looked up the price on this cable and it's $152.50 without any middle-man mark-up. For some people it's worth it to not have to DIY it.
I understand all of the difficulties of running a small niche business. But, that doesn't excuse lying and shoddy craftsmanship (see smashed wire in the Schurter connector as an example).

Like I said. I feel much safer now that my computer is plugged back into the wall with molded power cable.
__________________
My feedback : Head-Fi , eBαγ , Audiogon
Akathisia is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2008, 03:21 AM   #13 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
FallenAngel's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,774
Default

I feel this thread is about to get deleted but it does make me feel good about having plans to build my own power cord.
__________________
Amps Beta22, Melos Maestro, SOHA+JISBOS, PPAS
Sources Forte F-50a, ESI Juli@, Prodigy HD2, AlienDAC, diyMod iPod 30GB Video & 16GB iPod Mini
Headphones Headphile SR-225, Vintage RS-1, HD-580, HD-600, HD-650, MarkL D-2000, MarkL D-5000
Speakers MINT PreAmp, LM3886 GainClone -> Wharfedale Diamond 9.2

Current Projects Prototyping SOHA II, Prototyping MiniMAX, Balanced Beta22

FeedBack Head-Fi Heatware
FallenAngel is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2008, 03:26 AM   #14 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
colonelkernel8's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SDSM&T
Posts: 2,153

IM Contacts
Send a message via AIM to colonelkernel8 Send a message via MSN to colonelkernel8
Default

Yes, please delete the truth admins. Good god this is funny. Yeah, it makes a HUGE difference in sound considering its the same crap thats in the walls. On top of that, they are outright lying about their product, LiniPur conductors... I guess they don't expect anyone to cut open their expensive cable. Just goes to show you how Virtual Dynamics and other similar companies sell snake oil and rely on the gullibility of audiophiles and their unprecedented susceptibility to placebo.
__________________
Head-Fi Feedback | eBay Feedback

Last edited by colonelkernel8; 02-05-2008 at 03:34 AM.
colonelkernel8 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2008, 03:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
500+ Head-Fi'er

Profile
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Lackland AFB, TX
Posts: 622
Default

Originally Posted by FallenAngel View Post
I feel this thread is about to get deleted but it does make me feel good about having plans to build my own power cord.
I don't see why this thread should get deleted. It's all factual.
__________________
My feedback : Head-Fi , eBαγ , Audiogon
Akathisia is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2008, 03:33 AM   #16 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
Killercrush's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Montrιal, Canada
Posts: 2,164

IM Contacts
Send a message via MSN to Killercrush
Default

Best thread ever, period.
__________________
Team Joe Grado | Team 7318 | Team Reality | Team Minimalist | Team Budget | Team SEARCH

WTB : Joseph Grado Signature Ultra-Wide Bandwidth Reference Cable (HP1000/HP1-2-3/SR300)

Feedback : Head-Fi | eBay
Killercrush is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2008, 03:36 AM   #17 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
FallenAngel's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,774
Default

Originally Posted by Akathisia View Post
I don't see why this thread should get deleted. It's all factual.
Oh, absolutely, it's just the whole idea of reverse-engineering and posting details of how a commercial product is made that isn't always liked. Personally, I see no problems with it.
__________________
Amps Beta22, Melos Maestro, SOHA+JISBOS, PPAS
Sources Forte F-50a, ESI Juli@, Prodigy HD2, AlienDAC, diyMod iPod 30GB Video & 16GB iPod Mini
Headphones Headphile SR-225, Vintage RS-1, HD-580, HD-600, HD-650, MarkL D-2000, MarkL D-5000
Speakers MINT PreAmp, LM3886 GainClone -> Wharfedale Diamond 9.2

Current Projects Prototyping SOHA II, Prototyping MiniMAX, Balanced Beta22

FeedBack Head-Fi Heatware
FallenAngel is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2008, 03:37 AM   #18 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
fraseyboy's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Posts: 2,959

IM Contacts
Send a message via MSN to fraseyboy
Default

HUH?!?!?!

So my Testament 2.0 is made of the same stuff...

But... But... But.... I SWEAR it makes the sound better
__________________
Team 15-year-old-Fi
Headphones: Etymotic ER6i, Audio Technica AD700, Beyerdynamic DT880, AKG K701
Sources: Audigy 2 ZS, Beresford TC-7510 Mk III, Rockboxed iRiver H120, Samsung YP-Z5
Ampage: GoVibe V6, Little Dot MK II
Music: Gomez, Radiohead, Wilco, Diana Krall, Pink Floyd, Explosions In the Sky
fraseyboy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2008, 03:39 AM   #19 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
FallenAngel's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,774
Default

Originally Posted by fraseyboy View Post
HUH?!?!?!

So my Testament 2.0 is made of the same stuff...

But... But... But.... I SWEAR it makes the sound better
Yes, and who says that a "standard" cable can't sound nice? Oh, and placebo has been measured to change perception
__________________
Amps Beta22, Melos Maestro, SOHA+JISBOS, PPAS
Sources Forte F-50a, ESI Juli@, Prodigy HD2, AlienDAC, diyMod iPod 30GB Video & 16GB iPod Mini
Headphones Headphile SR-225, Vintage RS-1, HD-580, HD-600, HD-650, MarkL D-2000, MarkL D-5000
Speakers MINT PreAmp, LM3886 GainClone -> Wharfedale Diamond 9.2

Current Projects Prototyping SOHA II, Prototyping MiniMAX, Balanced Beta22

FeedBack Head-Fi Heatware
FallenAngel is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2008, 03:44 AM   #20 (permalink)
Headphoneus Supremus
 
colonelkernel8's Avatar

Profile
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SDSM&T
Posts: 2,153

IM Contacts
Send a message via AIM to colonelkernel8 Send a message via MSN to colonelkernel8
Default

I am sure their Genesis is made of the same LHHN wire..., just 6 gauge. This also pretty much throws out markl's reviews (build quality of 7 on VD cables, are you kidding? Hot glue and electrical tape?!). This really changes everything. People claim that this cable "sounds" better than cables that are actually well made with quality materials, therefore, it has to all be thrown out because of placebo. This thread makes me happy.
__________________
Head-Fi Feedback | eBay Feedback

Last edited by colonelkernel8; 02-05-2008 at 03:53 AM.
colonelkernel8 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Facebook it!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump