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Headphoneus Supremus: Hangin' with the monkeys. Member of the Trade: markl Mods
you shill
Wow, you got him pegged and uncovered his secret. Yes, Acoustic Chef works for VD and represents their products, you have amazing power of insight. Congrats on rooting that one out.
Also ironic when I read you pimping other cable manufacturers products elsewhere on these boards.
Wow, you got him pegged and uncovered his secret. Yes, Acoustic Chef works for VD and represents their products, you have amazing power of insight. Congrats on rooting that one out.
Also ironic when I read you pimping other cable manufacturers products elsewhere on these boards.
Yes, because Fitz, Monoprice, and Blue Jeans Cable all claim to make cables that sound so much better than anything else and charge $30,000 for them. Those companies and VD are so similar, aren't they?
Looking for, and finding, the UL Mark on a product tells you that samples of this product line have been thoroughly tested and investigated by our team of product safety professionals. If you're not familiar with the UL Mark, it's the letters "UL" inside a circle. Look on your hair dryer, toaster or vacuum cleaner -- it's likely to be there. The UL Mark of Safety should be on every electrical product, fire extinguisher and fuel-burning appliance in your home.
If you carry homeowner's insurance on your belongings, you should ask your insurance agent how using a non-UL listed "handmade" power cable might impact your ability to make a claim in case of fire. If you rent, you might want to ask your landlord how he feels about you using homemade electrical equipment that hasn't been certified.
I'm going to point at the elephant in the room that no one is mentioning yet. I think this guy has people here in the board who are shilling for him without revealing their business relationship with him to the group. I outed one already. I bet there are more. This guy is a real piece of work.
Headphoneus Supremus: Hangin' with the monkeys. Member of the Trade: markl Mods
Yes, because Fitz, Monoprice, and Blue Jeans Cable all claim to make cables that sound so much better than anything else and charge $30,000 for them. Those companies and VD are so similar, aren't they?
I see, so it's not shilling when you are doing it for a lower priced product. Gotcha.
I think this guy has people here in the board who are shilling for him without revealing their business relationship with him to the group. I outed one already. I bet there are more.
Speaking for myself, I'm just a satisfied customer. What about the shills for other cable companies using this thread as an opportunity to bash another cable maker? Do you see them here as well?
How many aftermarket cords are UL listed? Almost none. How many of these headphone amps are UL listed?
I think that is a valid question, and one that should be taken into account when someone buys any electrical product. Underwriters Laboratories provides certification for cables under 70 different categories according to their website.
With a ten times markup over cost (or more) cable manufacturers can certainly afford getting their products safety tested for crying out loud. I've googled up this info in ten minutes. Has anyone at Virtual Dynamics taken ten minutes out of their valuable time to insure the safety of their customers? It's one thing for a battery operated Cmoy amp. It's something entirely different for a power cable that stays plugged in to your wall socket 24/7.
How else do you think this thread got so long? This thread got so long because these people want to bury the truth with utter nonsense, insults, and drag all of us through the mud --> muddy the waters so to speak.
And about that "powercord review" our esteemed resident reviewer did... Kind of makes me wonder about those "expert" reviews...
Originally Posted by bigshot
I'm going to point at the elephant in the room that no one is mentioning yet. I think this guy has people here in the board who are shilling for him without revealing their business relationship with him to the group. I outed one already. I bet there are more. This guy is a real piece of work.
Wow, you got him pegged and uncovered his secret. Yes, Acoustic Chef works for VD and represents their products, you have amazing power of insight. Congrats on rooting that one out.
Since you've addressed the issue, I'll ask you, have you ever received any audio products for a reduced price or for free to use for your reviews? Have you ever received any compensation of any sort from any audio equipment manufacturer or retailer?
It's a fair question since one poster on this thread has already indicated that he has a business relationship with Virtual Dynamics.
Originally Posted by markl
What about the shills for other cable companies using this thread as an opportunity to bash another cable maker? Do you see them here as well?
I think that shills for other high end cable manufacturers would be well advised to stay clear of this thread. No good is going to come of any of this for them. Light is getting shined on the dirty little secret.
I see, so it's not shilling when you are doing it for a lower priced product. Gotcha.
Originally Posted by American Heritage Dictionary
shill (shĭl) pronunciation Slang.
n.
One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.
v., shilled, shill·ing, shills.
v.intr.
To act as a shill.
v.tr.
1. To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
2. To lure (a person) into a swindle.
Let's see here, BJC et al. aren't trying to "swindle" anyone (they don't make false claims), and I do not work for them, whereas Acoustic Chef works for VD, and VD does make false claims.
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