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| Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum) Discussion of cables, power (the electric kind), tweaks, & accessories. |
02-05-2008, 06:06 PM
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Headphoneus Supremus:
Hangin' with the monkeys.
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Since you've addressed the issue, I'll ask you, have you ever received any audio products for a reduced price or for free to use for your reviews? Have you ever received any compensation of any sort from any audio equipment manufacturer or retailer?
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I have purchased every VD cable I've owned. I wait for their sales to buy cheap or I buy them used on audiogon.
I do get sent products "free" from time to time by various manufacturers to see if I want to review them. If I don't like it, I send it back. However, if I end up liking it, I have to buy it like anyone else.
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02-05-2008, 06:11 PM
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Doesn't UL only certify up to 10 gauge? If so you need to ask yourself why. and what is UL really...
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You should be fired! This is ridiculous. Can't give a straight honest answer about something that should be of major importance. Sorry buddy but your company is poorly ran and full of shifty sales people.
It seems to me that you have ZERO marketing experience which is a requirement to have the job you do. According to the VD website.
You know VD is an acronym for Venereal Disease as well. That makes me giggle cause it would seem you are selling high quality hot chicks at prime prices only to actually ship a nasty stripper/escort.
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02-05-2008, 06:23 PM
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VDRL antibody test for syphilis. Nasty stuff. 
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You know VD is an acronym for Venereal Disease as well. That makes me giggle cause it would seem you are selling high quality hot chicks at prime prices only to actually ship a nasty stripper/escort.
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02-05-2008, 06:34 PM
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AAnnyway, thanks for the ruckus guys, was fun but I gota go sell some cables to real audiophiles now.
I'm sure out of all this at least couple intelligent people read this (AKA potential customers). So, thanks guys.
Cya! 
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02-05-2008, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef
AAnnyway, thanks for the ruckus guys, was fun but I gota go sell some cables to real audiophiles now.
I'm sure out of all this at least couple intelligent people read this (AKA potential customers). So, thanks guys.
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Still can't answer the UL listing question?
Also I think anyone intelligent would see your responses to normal questions and run from your snake oil company as fast as possible.
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02-05-2008, 06:43 PM
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Don't you mean egotist?
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Please don't slam other members of this board. I respect markl's opinion as someone who has access to gear I will never buy, nor have the means to buy.
This thread isn't supposed to be a cable debate, I started it with rock solid evidence and experiences. Take a spin on that as you will. Acoustic Chef pretty much gave us no real defense, in fact, he pretty much came right out and told us the cabel is garbage.
I really don't want this thread deleted, people need to see this.
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02-05-2008, 06:48 PM
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I think his rude reactions to people who may or may not purchase one of his products down the road goes hand in hand with the prices he charges people for his products. Screw you and just give me your money. If you choose to not buy anything then your not a real audiophile and I might as well insult you. I know he was bashed pretty good but professional marketing people don't respond that way. His attitude matches his products and prices. He had an opportunity to here to defend his products and chose to participate in name calling instead.
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02-05-2008, 06:48 PM
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Please don't slam other members of this board. I respect markl's opinion as someone who has access to gear I will never buy, nor have the means to buy.
This thread isn't supposed to be a cable debate, I started it with rock solid evidence and experiences. Take a spin on that as you will. Acoustic Chef pretty much gave us no real defense, in fact, he pretty much came right out and told us the cabel is garbage.
I really don't want this thread deleted, people need to see this.
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Na man, the cable's awsome. If you heard it you would know this.
And by the way I'm not a fan of framing poor little kitty cats, shame on you.
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02-05-2008, 07:07 PM
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maybe we should define 'hand made', 'custom', 'recipe', and 'cable'.
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VH audio has custom cables built by a cable company and sent to them in spools. Handmade means taking wires, braiding them and adding connectors. Recipe means a known good performing configuration.
As for the UL certification arguement... who cares?
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02-05-2008, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef
AAnnyway, thanks for the ruckus guys, was fun but I gota go sell some cables to real audiophiles now.
I'm sure out of all this at least couple intelligent people read this (AKA potential customers). So, thanks guys.
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Real audiophiles? What is that supposed to mean? Right, I guess the accepted vernacular is "gullible audio idiot".
I hope those "potential customers" who read this learn a few things...and ultimately do not purchase your products.
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02-05-2008, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Acoustic Chef
AAnnyway, thanks for the ruckus guys, was fun but I gota go sell some cables to real audiophiles now.
I'm sure out of all this at least couple intelligent people read this (AKA potential customers). So, thanks guys.
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So you resort to insults?
Wow, I really want to buy a VD cable now, their salesmen are so mature, helpful, and down-to-earth.
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As for the UL certification arguement... who cares?
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I'm pretty sure my insurance company would.
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02-05-2008, 07:30 PM
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I have been checking this thread almost every time that I have been on head-fi for the past day or so. It is interesting to see who will say what next and is rathering addicting 
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02-05-2008, 07:32 PM
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When you guys keep saying VD, I get it confused with something else. 
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02-05-2008, 07:35 PM
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Yes, because Fitz, Monoprice, and Blue Jeans Cable all claim to make cables that sound so much better than anything else and charge $30,000 for them. Those companies and VD are so similar, aren't they?
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Let's see here, BJC et al. aren't trying to "swindle" anyone (they don't make false claims), and I do not work for them, whereas Acoustic Chef works for VD, and VD does make false claims.
See the difference?
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What do they use to judge the claim " to make cables that sound so much better than anything else"
Could you please provide the model number of your "sound better" meter
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02-05-2008, 07:36 PM
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What do they use to judge the claim " to make cables that sound so much better than anything else"
Could you please provide the model number of your "sound better" meter
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That was internet sarcasm dave.
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