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Old 02-05-2008, 08:45 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Uhm... this might be overdoing it a little bit. The cable construction looks decent and I didn't see absolutely any safety hazard in it. Since these really sound like serious claims of "safety", I wouldn't want to jump the gun. The wire itself as well as the connectors are all spec'd above what they are used for and I think any and all custom cable using good (and safety approved) components, while maintaining proper consturciton should be safe. I highly doubt any small audio company actually has their cables certified. I know I'm adding a dangerous word by saying "proper" construction, but even the squeezed wire doesn't look very pretty in the IEC connector, it still looks properly done.
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:39 AM   #92 (permalink)
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This all reminds me of a nice story from Hans Christian Anderson:

The Emperor's New Clothes by Hans Christian Andersen (1805-75) adapted by Stephen Corrin in Stories for Seven-Year-Olds. London 1964
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I feel this thread is about to get deleted but it does make me feel good about having plans to build my own power cord.
It shouldn't be deleted. Jude himself once did a very similar exposition of a VD cable:

Dissecting a Virtual Dynamics Basic Power Cord (photos included)
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RLC doesn't affect DC... but power cables handle AC My point was that what minimal effect the cable properties have on the 120VAC signal will be pretty much gone by the time you've been through AC-DC conversion and passed through the active components. And the effect will be much less than normal psychological and physiological variability.
RLC is freq dependent based on the lumped wire model.

I can measure power cable difference in my spkr system. approx 1dB better bass extension at 30Hz on a tone sweep going from Volex to Black Sand Violet; granted I haven't had the time to measure the VD cables, but the bass extension is too obvious for me to bother to measure.

On the topic of VD and its response to a genuine concern posed by one of our members. The response and conduct displayed by VD is unprofessional. If the VD rep implied that the 'free cable' is somehow different from that of the retail version and the 'free' version is inferior to that of the original; then that's 'bait and switch' and is not only unethical business practice (fraud) but maybe unlawful in different states. OTOH, if the Power3 is truly constructed with an aggregated parts some of which was shown on the 1st page, then VD at least owes a moral duty to explain to its customers the justification behind charging them $150 for $15 worth of raw material.

We will not reprimand you for making a profit; as long as its reasonable; and you are not profiteering off of our community because you are a trusted member (cough.. this applies to other cable makers besides VD).

I love the VD cable but I think they need to re-think their marketing strategy and their communications.
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The construction is a little dodgy, but I wouldn't expect much of a $150 cable... especially when the company also sells cables that cost over $1k. I mean, there has to be some difference between the different models, right?

What really surprises me is the lack of maturity on the VD reps responses. I wonder if the company realizes what a douche they have speaking for them here on head-fi?
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What really surprises me is the lack of maturity on the VD reps responses. I wonder if the company realizes what a douche they have speaking for them here on head-fi?
I never got how that word got started as a form of an insult, but I'm totally with you on that. Never have I seen such disgusting behavior from somebody who is supposed to represent the company at its finest of behavior and communication to its customers.

Not that they'll be getting many now anyway.
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I never got how that word got started as a form of an insult.
Me neither, though it has become a personal favourite in any case.
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I don't know... when you look at the material costs, it seems one sided, but when you factor in labour, marketing, R&D, market demand, and other business costs (as you would if you were seriously trying to keep a business running), it doesn't seem so bad. I just looked up the price on this cable and it's $152.50 without any middle-man mark-up. For some people it's worth it to not have to DIY it.
...Are you serious? I haven't even read through the thread yet, but I just cannot believe someone would actually post such a thing. Are you in denial, or something?

BJC cables are built better than this thing and cost less.
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That was my question to, I just bit my tongue, as I really don't feel like being flamed, but as the old saying goes Curiosity killed the cat.
Seems in this case the curious cat killed Virtual Dynamics. Maybe soon. Literally!

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BJC cables are built better than this thing and cost less.
Not that I don't agree with you in general, but does Blue Jeans make a power cable?
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