It's Done! Power Cord Shoot-Out-- 22 Power Cords Reviewed!

[markl]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

[mlhm5]

Buying a new wall socket and making new connections to the mains wires would have a more substantial effect than buying a $650 mains cable.

[PhilS]

markl, great reviews and another worthy effort.

mlhm5, nice thead krap. Jeez, what the hell is your problem? And what part of the phrase "DBT-free forum" do you not understand? This is not the thread for you to advance your agenda, so go do it somewhere else, will ya, and let the adults continue with a discusson of the review and the reviewed cables.

P.S. I hope a moderator will delete the thread kraps, and feel free to delete the latter portion of mine as well once this thread is cleaned of the trash.

[imported_Matt_Carter]

Originally Posted by mlhm5

Buying a new wall socket and making new connections to the mains wires would have a more substantial effect than buying a $650 mains cable.

GET OUTA HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you really have nothing better to do.

[mlhm5]

Originally Posted by PhilS

markl, great reviews and another worthy effort.

mlhm5, nice thead krap. Jeez, what the hell is your problem? And what part of the phrase "DBT-free forum" do you not understand? This is not the thread for you to advance your agenda, so go do it somewhere else, will ya, and let the adults continue with a discusson of the review and the reviewed cables.

P.S. I hope a moderator will delete the thread kraps, and feel free to delete the latter portion of mine as well once this thread is cleaned of the trash.

Well, I still don't understand how an expensive 6' power cable (not a cable with inbuilt filters or other esoterica) can counteract the miles of power company wiring, and hundreds of feet in your house, and "act as a sort of “conditioner” on the power line, conditioning the electricity before it enters your component" as posted by Mark.

Can you shed some light on how this happens?

[markl]

Guys, while I appreciate the sentiments, unfortuneately this only seems to succeed in provoking more argument.

Let's just politely refer the poster to any of the hundreds of other threads on the "great cable debate" and he can read all the arguments back and forth. He seems to have a low post count so may not know that this has been re-hashed to death a trillion times already.

[PhilS]

Originally Posted by markl

Let's just politely refer the poster to any of the hundreds of other threads on the "great cable debate" and he can read all the arguments back and forth. He seems to have a low post count so may not know that this has been re-hashed to death a trillion times already.

Unfortunately, a review of his prior posts, and my own past experience on other threads, confirms that he is a troll, and just pops into threads like this to start a fight. I agree, though, unless the moderators intervene and solve the situation, let's just ignore it and maybe eventually he will get bored and go away.

[DarkAngel]

Mark this is insane amount of work to do, thanks for sharing.

For background of test system used.........
Are you using power conditioning?
Do you plug AC cords into unfiltered strip?

If not using conditioning have you tried one of the better units by Shunyata, Audio Magic, PS Audio etc.

Also if wall outlet has not been upgraded for under $80 you can get many models of audiophile outlets that must be tried if you are spending these large amounts of money on AC cords...........typical wall outlet is junk

-AC Conditoner
-Wall outlet
-Dedicated circuit for audio system
-AC cords
all part of balanced approach to enhancing power delivery to audio system

[markl]

Are you using power conditioning?
Do you plug AC cords into unfiltered strip?

Hi DA,
I haven't been using power conditioning for a couple years now, the cords have been going straight to the wall. I had a Monster PB1100 for a few years, which I used chiefly as surge suppressor, because as a power conditioner, it at least didn't harm the sound (some units I've had even longer ago may have mildly harmed the sound, not a huge fan of power conditioning). So, the net of having the PB1100 was no impact on sound quality.

Eventually, I plan to get a power regenerator, but that's a ways away.

[elrod-tom]

I just want to remind everyone of a couple of things:

1) We have rules about thread crapping that it appears were being ignored here. Let's not ignore it any more please.

2) We have particular rules about discussion of blind testing and such in this forum. We do this because they tend to degenerate rather quickly, as this one was on its way to doing. Let's not see this any more either.

I've just deleted a bunch of posts. If I have to delete any more, a warning will come along with the deleted post. Thanks...

[eyeteeth]

Originally Posted by markl

As you can imagine, I'm pretty burned out on power cords and have found a couple of them that really satisfy me completely with my system as it is.

Indeed you must be. Mark, the pity for us readers is that we can't hear what you heard and described in print. Is there some way that you could record 30 seconds or more of some music with your favorite power cord connected to your CDP and then the same section of music with a different power cord and host it. Then we can download the samples, burn them to CD and hear for ourselves.

I'm sure you no longer have all 22 cords but a few most dramatic ones will suffice.
I think this would be the crowning touch of your oeuvre.

[markl]

Indeed you must be. Mark, the pity for us readers is that we can't hear what you heard and described in print. Is there some way that you could record 30 seconds or more of some music with your favorite power cord connected to your CDP and then the same section of music with a different power cord and host it. Then we can download the samples, burn them to CD and hear for ourselves.

eyeteeth, I assume you being tongue-in-cheek? Record it how? With a microphone and a micro casstte recorder up to one R10 earcup? Somehow I don't think that will yield quite the same sound quality as listeing to my actual rig in, er, stereo.

[eyeteeth]

Originally Posted by markl

eyeteeth, I assume you being tongue-in-cheek? Record it how? With a microphone and a micro casstte recorder up to one R10 earcup? Somehow I don't think that will yield quite the same sound quality as listeing to my actual rig in, er, stereo.

Your CD player has RCA out and your computer has a sound card and bingo, bango, bongo we're there. The idea came to me from all the SH dudes who ask advice from each other about their needle drops. This is an example. Um...apologies for the choice of song; I just used the most recent example that looks informative in terms of layout and execution.

Personally I'm looking for a heavy gauge lightly shielded cord for my 200wpc amp. Prior to reading your PS Audio review I might have thought it ideal for me but now it seems very unacceptable. What's right for you may be wrong for me and vice versa but the more info the better I always feel. I think that woman is a beauty and you think she leaves much to be desired...you know what I mean.

I think it could be a great idea for a review to have interactivity.
Imagine if there were 16/44 one minute samples from your CDP, each from a different power cord.
That would be cool.

[markl]

Ah, I see. I still question if fidelity would be enough even if that was practical. I've never even attempted anything like that. You'd be playing the representation/recording of the sound of my gear through your own equipment. It just doesn't sound like a good way to do it, need to listen to my rig in the flesh, or much better still, to your own and A/B before/after cord swap. You know the sound before and after of your own equipment much better than you'd know someone else's.

[eyeteeth]

Originally Posted by markl

Ah, I see. I still question if fidelity would be enough even if that was practical. I've never even attempted anything like that.

I don't know the answer to that question either. I installed a M-Audio Audiophile 2496 last April for A to D and still haven't gotten around to doing it yet so I'm no shining example.

You'd be playing the representation/recording of the sound of my gear through your own equipment.

Yeah, but I still figure something is better than nothing. There is probably sufficient transparency among members' playback to get something good out of the experience.

Anyhow, food for thought.